[dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Mon Mar 17 14:03:43 CDT 2014


No. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Breen" <marklbreen at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, 17 March, 2014 5:09:54 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more

Hello All,

I use Hamachi since Mr Colby introduced us to it in 2007.  For me it works
great.  I have about 5 hamachi networks and I pay about $30 per year per
network.  Once I set up Hamachi for a client, I can access up to 30 of
their machines on that same hamachi network.

I never did use LogMeIn, if I needed rdp access to a machine, I installed
Hamachi on it and then did a regular rdp.

My question to the group is am I missing something?

Given that I already am familiar with Hamachi and it is not difficult to
install, is there a reason to use LetMeIn (free or not).

Gustav, thank you for the link, I had a look at it but am still wondering
if I am missing something that makes my hamachi solution cumbersome?

Happy St Patrick's day to all.

thanks

Mark






On 16 March 2014 21:03, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi Jim et al
>
> As mentioned elsewhere, we settled with Remote Utilities and the free
> version for commercial use and ten hosts:
>
>     http://www.remoteutilities.com
>
> Note that the viewers are free (no license).
>
> /gustav
>
> ________________________________________
> Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> på vegne af Gustav Brock
> Sendt: 27. januar 2014 20:10
> Til: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
>
> Hi Jim
>
> I've found Splashtop close to useless. Controlling an older XP machine
> takes minutes where it should take seconds.
> So I installed it on a local Windows 7 machine with i3 cpu, and that could
> be controlled with a high degree of patience but still useless for work.
>
> Then I installed TeamViewer and it rushed away at once, much like standard
> remote desktop and as LogMeIn does.
>
> So sadly, Splashtop may be fine for mobile devices (didn't try that, don't
> have the need) but not as an alternative for desktop use.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 19:53 >>>
> Hi Gustav:
>
> I have found similar and other issues with Splashtop Remote as well. Keep
> us posted on what you find out with Teamviewer.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:29:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
>
> Hi Jim
>
> No it was Splashtop I checked out. On that old WinXp host it takes 1:45 to
> open a tiny text file, render it, and close it again. With LogMeIn on that
> machine you can perform normal tasks though not speedy. This is across a 2
> Mb/s WAN. RDP runs at close to normal working speed.
>
> I noticed that when Splashtop open the connection to the machine, the
> splashtop service at once goes to 95% CPU usage where LogMeIn would stay at
> a few percent.
>
> I have yet to test Teamviewer, but the license model is very inflexible.
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 0:29 >>>
> Hi Gustav:
>
> I had OpenVPN running from a (Linux) server at my home and found the
> performance was more the adequate in allowing me to access all networks
> station (Linux and Windows), from another city.
>
> If you tried to run an OpenVPN server on just an old XP box, one on which
> requires a extra translation layer, it was surprising that it actually
> worked at all. ;-) XP runs an OpenVPN client just fine though.
>
> The application of course is going to be much slower than an app like
> Splashtop Desktop where only keyboard type inputs are sent one way and
> images are sent the other. A VPN is an encrypted tunnel...with a lot more
> overhead...privacy and security is the expectation.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:59:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
>
> Hi Jim
>
> I'm not sure. I just tried to install it on a WinXP machine and remote
> control that from my Win8.1 Desktop. It is so slow over a 2 Mb/s line that
> it is useless, much slower than even VNC. The Windows App doesn't work at
> all.
>
> What about OpenVPN? It seems to require that you run a server of your own?
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 21:43 >>>
> Hi Gustav:
>
> It looks like that may be the best quick answer. As for any large sites
> maybe a OpenVPN server (http://openvpn.net) on the client's server may be
> the best long term answer and from there, I can just RDP in or connect via
> the shares to all the stations.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:23:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
>
> Hi Jim et all
>
> Splashtop seems to win on a simple commercial pricing where indeed
> TeamViewer is very limited regarding installs and "channels":
>
> 1.Simple, affordable pricing model * $60 per user per year, to remotely
> control an unlimited number of computers from an unlimited number of
> devices.
>
> And they even feature a Windows Phone app. I like that, though I'll
> probably never use it.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> gustav at cactus.dk 25-01-14 20:12 >>>
> Hi Jim
>
> Splashtop works across firewalls if you sign up for the web access option.
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 19:30 >>>
> Hi Gustav:
>
> I found out the LogMeIn was dead when my client told me it wasn't
> working...very upsetting and to my way of thinking not very unprofessional.
> It will be a while before I will endorse the product again, if ever.
>
> I had initially been interested in Splashtop remote, but according to the
> attached article there may be issues with firewalls and therefore routers?
> This will require further investigation. Splashtop remote is supposed to be
> very fast and also runs on all platforms so I have not abandoned its
> potential use yet.
>
> Teamviewer might be the more appropriate choice...any thoughts?
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:57:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Even as a loyal user, this was such a surprise to me that I posted this to
> the forum:
>
> <quote>
> "As a help to our loyal users we'll give you 60, no 30, no 7 (seven) days
> to ..."
>
> Sorry, this is not a way to address loyal users. We're off.
> I'm quite sure the competion will know how to not pertinently address
> loyal users.
>
> Even after 30 years in this business, the way suppliers can address
> customers still surprises me. Some people are not educated, I've realized,
> or just plain stupid.
> </quote>
>
> Now, what was the name of the very interesting newcomer, you told about
> not so long ago, please?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 18:34 >>>
> Hi All:
>
> Well the truth is LogMeIn is still there but now the model is
> pay-as-you-go. Today I will be running around to a couple of clients and
> replacing their remote products...but I still have not decided which one is
> best. I am sort of leaning towards Splashtop Remote...any thought?
>
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/t/free-tools/locked-out-of-logmein-check-out-these-free-alternatives-234812
>
> Jim
>
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