Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Mon Mar 17 17:44:13 CDT 2014
I must apologize too. According to a friend, his neighbour's black Scotty dog, rolled in another neighbours lawn fertilized with fish manure. According to the tale, the dog has retained a nick-name of Hamachi. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Tesiny" <eptept at gmail.com> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:29:32 AM Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more I apologize for this comment but I prefer my Hamachi raw with a bit of wasabi and soy, some grated daikon is good too. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello All, > > I use Hamachi since Mr Colby introduced us to it in 2007. For me it works > great. I have about 5 hamachi networks and I pay about $30 per year per > network. Once I set up Hamachi for a client, I can access up to 30 of > their machines on that same hamachi network. > > I never did use LogMeIn, if I needed rdp access to a machine, I installed > Hamachi on it and then did a regular rdp. > > My question to the group is am I missing something? > > Given that I already am familiar with Hamachi and it is not difficult to > install, is there a reason to use LetMeIn (free or not). > > Gustav, thank you for the link, I had a look at it but am still wondering > if I am missing something that makes my hamachi solution cumbersome? > > Happy St Patrick's day to all. > > thanks > > Mark > > > > > > > On 16 March 2014 21:03, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote: > > > Hi Jim et al > > > > As mentioned elsewhere, we settled with Remote Utilities and the free > > version for commercial use and ten hosts: > > > > http://www.remoteutilities.com > > > > Note that the viewers are free (no license). > > > > /gustav > > > > ________________________________________ > > Fra: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < > > dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> på vegne af Gustav Brock > > Sendt: 27. januar 2014 20:10 > > Til: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > > Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > > > Hi Jim > > > > I've found Splashtop close to useless. Controlling an older XP machine > > takes minutes where it should take seconds. > > So I installed it on a local Windows 7 machine with i3 cpu, and that > could > > be controlled with a high degree of patience but still useless for work. > > > > Then I installed TeamViewer and it rushed away at once, much like > standard > > remote desktop and as LogMeIn does. > > > > So sadly, Splashtop may be fine for mobile devices (didn't try that, > don't > > have the need) but not as an alternative for desktop use. > > > > /gustav > > > > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 19:53 >>> > > Hi Gustav: > > > > I have found similar and other issues with Splashtop Remote as well. Keep > > us posted on what you find out with Teamviewer. > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:29:45 AM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > > > Hi Jim > > > > No it was Splashtop I checked out. On that old WinXp host it takes 1:45 > to > > open a tiny text file, render it, and close it again. With LogMeIn on > that > > machine you can perform normal tasks though not speedy. This is across a > 2 > > Mb/s WAN. RDP runs at close to normal working speed. > > > > I noticed that when Splashtop open the connection to the machine, the > > splashtop service at once goes to 95% CPU usage where LogMeIn would stay > at > > a few percent. > > > > I have yet to test Teamviewer, but the license model is very inflexible. > > > > /gustav > > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 26-01-14 0:29 >>> > > Hi Gustav: > > > > I had OpenVPN running from a (Linux) server at my home and found the > > performance was more the adequate in allowing me to access all networks > > station (Linux and Windows), from another city. > > > > If you tried to run an OpenVPN server on just an old XP box, one on which > > requires a extra translation layer, it was surprising that it actually > > worked at all. ;-) XP runs an OpenVPN client just fine though. > > > > The application of course is going to be much slower than an app like > > Splashtop Desktop where only keyboard type inputs are sent one way and > > images are sent the other. A VPN is an encrypted tunnel...with a lot more > > overhead...privacy and security is the expectation. > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:59:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > > > Hi Jim > > > > I'm not sure. I just tried to install it on a WinXP machine and remote > > control that from my Win8.1 Desktop. It is so slow over a 2 Mb/s line > that > > it is useless, much slower than even VNC. The Windows App doesn't work at > > all. > > > > What about OpenVPN? It seems to require that you run a server of your > own? > > > > /gustav > > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 21:43 >>> > > Hi Gustav: > > > > It looks like that may be the best quick answer. As for any large sites > > maybe a OpenVPN server (http://openvpn.net) on the client's server may > be > > the best long term answer and from there, I can just RDP in or connect > via > > the shares to all the stations. > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 11:23:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > > > Hi Jim et all > > > > Splashtop seems to win on a simple commercial pricing where indeed > > TeamViewer is very limited regarding installs and "channels": > > > > 1.Simple, affordable pricing model * $60 per user per year, to remotely > > control an unlimited number of computers from an unlimited number of > > devices. > > > > And they even feature a Windows Phone app. I like that, though I'll > > probably never use it. > > > > /gustav > > > > > > >>> gustav at cactus.dk 25-01-14 20:12 >>> > > Hi Jim > > > > Splashtop works across firewalls if you sign up for the web access > option. > > > > /gustav > > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 19:30 >>> > > Hi Gustav: > > > > I found out the LogMeIn was dead when my client told me it wasn't > > working...very upsetting and to my way of thinking not very > unprofessional. > > It will be a while before I will endorse the product again, if ever. > > > > I had initially been interested in Splashtop remote, but according to the > > attached article there may be issues with firewalls and therefore > routers? > > This will require further investigation. Splashtop remote is supposed to > be > > very fast and also runs on all platforms so I have not abandoned its > > potential use yet. > > > > Teamviewer might be the more appropriate choice...any thoughts? > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > > To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:57:09 AM > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] LogMeIn is no more > > > > Hi Jim > > > > Even as a loyal user, this was such a surprise to me that I posted this > to > > the forum: > > > > <quote> > > "As a help to our loyal users we'll give you 60, no 30, no 7 (seven) days > > to ..." > > > > Sorry, this is not a way to address loyal users. We're off. > > I'm quite sure the competion will know how to not pertinently address > > loyal users. > > > > Even after 30 years in this business, the way suppliers can address > > customers still surprises me. Some people are not educated, I've > realized, > > or just plain stupid. > > </quote> > > > > Now, what was the name of the very interesting newcomer, you told about > > not so long ago, please? > > > > /gustav > > > > > > >>> accessd at shaw.ca 25-01-14 18:34 >>> > > Hi All: > > > > Well the truth is LogMeIn is still there but now the model is > > pay-as-you-go. Today I will be running around to a couple of clients and > > replacing their remote products...but I still have not decided which one > is > > best. I am sort of leaning towards Splashtop Remote...any thought? > > > > > > > http://www.infoworld.com/t/free-tools/locked-out-of-logmein-check-out-these-free-alternatives-234812 > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com