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Tue Mar 1 18:16:17 CST 2016

Hi John:

I really think that OpenVPN is the best solution. 

It does take a little more work than an abstracted package like LogMeIn/Hamachi but the truth is that their cores are exactly the same...SSL protocol. Note that running the LogMeIn suite and OpenVPN on the same box may cause conflicts (blue screens)...for obvious reasons. When setup properly the remote station will appear as just another computer on the network list. You can just assign your end of the private network to any available IP address on your server/client end and then that pipe is bridged to another non-conflicting IP address on the remote network/station. The performance is limited only by the available bandwidth. These connections can be automated through the station bootup cycle and then the system can retry to acquire a connection, at assigned intervals, indefinitely.

One interesting thing is that you can set up, is any level of encryption. A friend tried AES 4096 with ECC but it took a good ten minutes to generate the key...astronomic over-kill but it is good to know that no one for ten thousands years will be able to crack it. ;-) AES 256 and 1024 generate keys almost instantaneously and are not crackable by our current technology.

Some techs have limited performance issues by renting a Cloud droplet (for as little as $5.00 per month) and then run their remote operations through a tier1 pipe. On DigitalOcean there is no extra costs for data transferred through a private network! How that works I don't know but I hope to be able to do some serious testing in a month or so. 

Of course this application is hardly a product that you would expect a home user to master as it is a little more industrial strength, than the likes of LogMeIn but it is infinitely flexible and with its co-partner SSH, has been around in various forms even before the internet existed...and is still under active development. 

...And you don't have to pay extra to stream a movie or music across the internet and you are not paying $30 per person per network. :-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com>
To: "DBA Tech" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 2:48:41 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] List

Yes I too have been trying to replace logmein with free and  better.
On Mar 1, 2016 14:35, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I have been working on a cross network communications project for the last
> couple of weeks and learned more about products, protocols and related
> standards than I ever wanted to know. If you are very knowledgeable about
> the protocols SSH/SSL you can jump the following paragraph.
>
> Preamble: SSL and SSH are very similar protocols, in fact they are almost
> the same, with code and functionality. I have discovered that these two
> protocols are virtually in all modern secure communications...it is just
> that their presents has been abstracted away. SSL goes a little beyond SSH
> in that it will open a secure (fully encrypted) Ethernet tunnel between
> computers, computers of any type and OS. This allows an extended network
> that could be anywhere in the world and bridge clients to servers and
> clients to clients...connection methods are limited only by your
> imagination and knowledge of these protocols. Most of our remote take-over
> programs use SSL at their core. Like LogMeIn, Teamviewer, X2Go and a host
> of other similar applications. Companies like Google, Oracle, IBM,
> Microsoft and many B2B type application like VoiceIP, Microsoft update
> services, secure IRC apps and a host of remote management systems...
>
> I have been trying to get OpenVPN running from various sites to some sites
> and ran into so many conflicts. (OpenVPN uses SSL of course.) Aside subject
> from the above topic, is the addresses and ports used to manage these
> various applications. For all of those who have played around with
> addresses and ports, here is the latest list:
>
> http://bit.ly/1L2GEW1
>
> All businesses that have been in business for a while tend to have their
> own preferences and have configured their applications to use one port or
> the another with little concern for the industry standards. This has been
> reflected in their routers, smart switches, spam filters, bridges and
> firewalls so when trying to install a new application, on a site, using a
> product like OpenVPN, it can become a nightmare of reconfiguring. The
> application may be connected for hours at a time, managing, monitoring, and
> transferring data between remote sites.
>
> Note that the first 40,000 ports can be a mine-field of conflicts and
> potential conflicts and I wished I had known about the latest version of
> the above list. If anyone here remembers the 16 IRQ choices on the old PCs
> (pre-2000), they will understand the problem with port usage. I have been
> able to "blue-screen" any Windows 7 computer with impunity...apparently
> application port conflict can be fatal to certain desktop PCs. That said ,I
> have not tested all Windows products so this issue may be that of only
> related to one Windows version but my Windows 10 has been giving a very
> good imitation of instability but it is not consistent and I may have
> inadvertently introduced other unrelated issues. As I am no longer working
> for a company the has Microsoft phone support, it is difficult to discover
> causes and solutions. The last time I did use Microsoft support, it took
> about two weeks to resolve a problem. Their tech staff earned every penny
> of the $365 charge. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
>
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