[dba-Tech] VPN

[Peter Brawley]

On 5/31/2018 14:02, Jim Lawrence wrote:
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> From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:40:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN
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> On 5/30/2018 10:14, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi Peter:
>>
>> I would tend to agree with you but the version of Ubuntu that is running on Windows 10 is not written by Microsoft but is written by Canonical. Microsoft paid Canonical to do this service. I share your suspicions of Microsoft's intentions but I also know that MS would not be embracing a competing operating system if it was not to keep itself relevant.
> Sure. Not an argument for using a MS product though.
>
>> If there was a war between Microsoft and Linux, for system dominance, Microsoft lost. If Microsoft wishes to become a player in the big corporate world they are going to have to ride in on Linux...good luck on that one.
>>
>> That said, there is still plenty of room for many players in the market. MS has realized the days of being able to sell their OS is gone and now they are trying to make the switch to a service provider. In that venture, their success continues.
> The Windows desktop is still stronger than the Linux desktop. Win10 as an ad-polluted service, though, is a pain in the ass.
>
> ...There is no question there that Windows10 is the prettiest desktop. (They win the Mi$$ universe pageant yet again. ;-)). We of course pay for this free desktop with a steady stream of ads and by supplying free access to our personal data. Its a trade off or is it a stand off?

Much of that crap can be got rid of, 
https://www.howtogeek.com/269331/how-to-disable-all-of-windows-10s-built-in-advertising/

PB

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>> Microsoft's plan of bringing Linux, in various flavours, to their desktop is to keep developers working on their desktop rather than leaving for the Linux world. Will this attempt work? I think it will...but in quite the reverse. IMO, many developers who have only worked on Microsoft and have been afraid of "Linux" will see that the water is just fine and that they can easily step into the Linux world without fear. Microsoft has created a Linux training center for computer novices and like all young students, they eventually graduate. :-)
> Good insight.
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>> To that end, I have started to install Linux on every Windows 10 that the owner will allow me to. Right now it is my inlaws and some of my old clients. It is amazing on how fast young nephews and nieces take to it especially if they have dreams of succeeding in the computer world.
> Yep.
>
> PB
>
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>> Jim
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "peter brawley" brawley at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:44:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN
>>
>> On 5/29/2018 13:54, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>> Hi Gustav:
>>>
>>> I may surprise you but I think Edge is a fine browser especially as MS is now making every effort to support modern standards.
>>>
>>> As I have recently stated, I am out of the full-time business but I do dabble with old clients, friends, relatives and even have assumed an advisory role in some new network installations (mostly with mixed OS versions). Many Microsoft businesses have migrated to either Chrome or FireFox on their own.
>>>
>>> I do hate too many targeted ads though and subsequently like setting DuckDuckGo as the default search engine for that reason...I am waiting for some browser to make it easier to switch search engines to the users current requirement.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has been trying to win me over with the following:
>>>
>>> https://www.techradar.com/news/ubuntu-1804-lts-is-now-on-windows-10s-microsoft-store
>>> http://bit.ly/2H2zboj
>> Until Microsoft Corp changes a whole lot more than it has done so far,
>> I'll not be using their version of Linux.
>>
>> PB
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>>> Jim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
>>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 9:46:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN
>>>
>>> Hi Jim
>>>
>>> Fair enough, indeed as you refrain from the usual bashing of Edge.
>>> However, my opinions in this area are purely based on practical business usage.
>>>
>>> /gustav
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>>> Fra: dba-Tech [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Jim Lawrence
>>> Sendt: 29. maj 2018 18:35
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>>> Emne: Re: [dba-Tech] VPN
>>>
>>> That is my understanding as well.
>>>
>>> Aside: I would not absolutely trust the opinions of either Gustav or myself as we are both a little bit fanatical when it comes to operating systems. I am a serious Linux nut and Gustav is a true blue corporate Microsoft man all the way. ;-)
>>>
>>> Jim
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