[dba-Tech] Another reason to put off W11

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Wed Jan 4 02:05:56 CST 2023


Further on console in WIn 11:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/command-prompt-and-windows-powershell-for-
windows-11-6453ce98-da91-476f-8651-5c14d5777c20

"Command Prompt and Windows Powershell for Windows 11

In Windows 11 22H2, the default app used to host console windows has been 
changed to Windows Terminal. After the October 2022 update, Command Prompt, 
Windows PowerShell, and other console apps will appear inside an instance of 
Windows Terminal. 

You might experience compatibility issues with apps, especially those that try to 
blend graphical elements with text mode elements. "


And from the previously quoted PB Develope:
>From the same PB developer:

"I've already discovered a bug in Microsoft's Virtual Terminal Sequences where one 
of the commands to clear part/all of the console will lock up an app in certain 
circumstances, even if you close the terminal, you have to go find the app still in 
task manager. "

  



On 4 Jan 2023 at 8:42, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> If you do anything complicated with Console/Cmd.exe, the WIn 11
> changes can be a PITA.
> 
> This from the developers of PB:
> 
> I have been researching this quite a bit. We have internally not had a
> lot of machines updated to Windows 11, but as soon as a few of them
> did, several of our in-house utility console applications went awry.
> Microsoft is moving toward having the console behave like a VT100
> terminal instead of how we have made use of the console for many
> years. See: Console Virtual Terminal Sequences
> 
> 
> The behavior of the following sequences is based on the VT100 and
> derived terminal emulator technologies, most specifically the xterm
> terminal emulator. I am finding so far that a console application
> being used in "terminal" mode can now only choose either 80 or 132
> columns, and I cannot so far find a way to alter the number of rows in
> the screen buffer, or the visual height of the window. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3 Jan 2023 at 9:10, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> 
> > Windows 11 is still not really faster than Windows 10 despite what
> > Microsoft suggested - Neowin
> > <https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-is-still-not-really-faster-t
> > ha n-windows-10-despite-what-microsoft-suggested/>
> > 
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