[dba-VB] Does anyone have

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Dec 11 10:05:23 CST 2007


Charlotte's is home built it seems.  I have not really read anything from
Shamil re a .net framework but it would not surprise me if he were using
such a thing.

I watched a 15 minute overview video of codesmith and ntiers and all I can
say is WOW.  OTOH it seems that it would be WOW if you were an experienced
.NET developer.  My first impression is that it would simply be overwhelming
to me.  Sadly there are no books you can buy to help you get started with
Codesmith. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:17 AM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Does anyone have

Hi John

Isn't Charlotte and Shamil using a framework for business objects? Probably
home built.
Any recommendations for a third party tool?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 11-12-2007 16:02 >>>
It is indeed a mess, but in fact less so than most of the open source
things.  And the guy has credentials (listen to me 8-(, and his first book
gets a 4.5 star rating from ~50 reviewers on Amazon.com.  I desperately need
an introduction to business objects so I'll give it a try.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:53 AM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Does anyone have

Hi John

I visited the site and got the same impression.

This is, sadly, the case for most open-source sites - lots of info on
marginal latest revisions and nerded comments, but only an obtuse - or
completely lacking - overview for the first-time visitor. Often not even
system/software requirements are listed. 
These people could really gain by learning some marketing: What is this,
what is the purpose, who is it aimed for, what skill is required, what
software is required, etc. It's a mess and a waste.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 11-12-2007 15:28 >>>
Richard,

Thanks for the link.  I have to say it is annoying when an author does
things in reverse order.  I go to the site.  Plastered all over is CSLA.  So
what is CSLA?  There is a link, plainly labeled "what is CSLA".  So I go to
that link.  There is an entire page starting with CSLA is a ....  At the
VERY BOTTOM is the paragraph that DEFINES the acronym CSLA.  

Sigh.

But in the end I ordered the book, as well as an older book by the same
author apparently no longer in print.  Let's hope he can help me!

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:30 AM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Does anyone have

Hi

For anyone looking to move in vb.net (or c#.net) I would recommend CSLA.Net
by Rocky Lhotka.
His framework is excellent.  There is too much to mention,  a steep learning
curve but worth it.
Check out http://www.lhotka.net 
Richard



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