[dba-VB] So much for codesmith

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Dec 11 18:24:58 CST 2007


You know there is a shareware version (older), there is a basic version
($99) and there is an advanced version.  The basic might not do what I was
seeing because it does not integrate into VS 2005 at all, it is just
standalone.  Perhaps the nag only happens like that from inside of VS 2005?
I never tried it standalone.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Maddison
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:49 PM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] So much for codesmith

Hi John,

Wow!  What a PITA...
I gotta say though that when I eval'd it about a year ago I didn't have any
problems.  The nag screen came up when the tool loaded, asked you to either
register or continue trial, that was it!  Your not running Vista are you?

It's a shame because you would have liked the netTiers stuff.  My annoyance
threshhold is about the same as yours these days so I would have binned it
as well ;-)

cheers

Michael M

To: dwaters at usinternet.com; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] So much for codesmith

LOL, I would have to guess you are right.  I can tell you that I right
clicked on 5 different things and before I could look at them in the editor
I had to answer the nag screen.  Yep, EVERY TIME.

Given how complex this thing appears to be, how much time will be spent
actually doing stuff and how much time clicking OK to the nag screen?  I can
tell you that I will not be finding out.

And yes, it was an error on their part, since (based on testimony from our
fellow listers) I was willing to try and probably buy the product.
But since I can't see how it works, I guess I'll look at some other product.

For all of you folks thinking about using nag screens... it is just fine to
pop up once when the program installs.  It is OK to pop up once every time
the program opens.  I would have put up with it once every hour (though it
would be an annoyance at that point).  Popping up the nag screen every time
you do anything will instantly lose you customers.  

I can tell you that CodeSmith 30 day trial was not installed more than 10
minutes on my machine.  Of course you are welcome to the remaining 29 days
23 hours and 50 minutes of my eval time!  ;-)

Then again you will only get about 2 hours of useful(?) eval over that 30
days since the rest of your time you will spend cussing at a nag screen.

NEXT?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:02 PM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] So much for codesmith

Come on . . .

That might just have been an error on their part.  I'm sure the nag screens
aren't as frequent after you purchase it.

;-)

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:52 PM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-VB] So much for codesmith

I finally managed to get logged in to their site.  I downloaded the 30 day
evaluation and installed it.  I went in to VS 2005 and WOW, there it was.  I
started clicking on things to see what it is.  EVERY time I looked at
anything a NAG SCREEN POPPED UP.  Not once, not once every hour, not every 5
minutes, EVERY TIME I DID ANYTHING.  No I am not exaggerating, EVERY SINGLE
(*&^@$#%^)(*& TIME!!!  Now how in holy hell are you supposed to evaluate
something when you have to knock down a nag screen with every view of every
object?

Obviously I uninstalled the eval.

NEXT?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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