Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Oct 24 20:45:50 CDT 2007
I do not usually answer my own emails but... I must qualify my last comments as I was unaware of the product cost which had me fumbling for my oxygen mask as soon as I saw it. Fortunately there are evaluation copies available. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:12 PM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Renaming DBA-VB I offer wonder why Ruby-on-rails is such a popular program considering that its performance is rated at one thirtieth of that of C and far below the speed of any .Net flavour. A friend has recently been required to work with ROR and was not impressed with performance and that it could be written so cryptic that he was required to write extensive notes in the code. His recommendation for the finest .Net programming language is Eiffel: http://archive.eiffel.com/doc/manuals/technology/dotnet/eiffelsharp/ Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:18 PM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Renaming DBA-VB <<< ... C#, J#, F#, c#, D#, E# Z# and A flat Minor. >>> Hi All, Let's start building the Tower of Babylon? :) (Just a rhetoric introductory question of course...) I personally *currently* prefer C# for VS-based DB-centered real-life projects' application programming... I'd not mind to develop MS Access 2003/2007/MS Office front-end if my customer will demand that but I will very probably explain/prove to my customer that using VBA/VB6 for anything more than "gluing" MS Access/Office front-end would be waste of resources these days when we have VS2005 for several years and when VS2008 (and .NET Framework 3.5 etc.etc. related) are to be released real soon... One year ago from now I was more VB.NET-ish than C#-ish :) I'd not mind to become Ruby-in-Steel-ish (http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Steel-Download-and-Change-Log ) one year from now and to get really artistic and efficient with it as this Ruby-dance clip shows http://www.metacafe.com/watch/292734/ruby_dancing/ :) I could even get Iron-Python-ish (http://www.devrush.com/world_web_development/world_web_development_blogs/20 07_08_14_13_45_265/full_news ) real soon especially taking into account that I currently programming mainly ASP.NET applications... IOW I mean that right tool should be used for right job/task and that means for me that limiting myself to one programming language is looking here like a loosing strategy - that (limited oneself to use one programming language/tool for every job/task) would look like that - http://www.metacafe.com/watch/881053/penguin_goes_in_shop/ - yes, it's funny and rather efficient but it's not: as artistic and efficient as this http://www.metacafe.com/watch/780405/the_best_goals_ever/ ... and it's not as flexible and free to go in every direction (when needed/forced by market/customers' demands) as this http://www.metacafe.com/watch/788432/extreme_ballerina_stretching/ ... and it (use of one language/tool) is not as hacky/tricky as this http://www.metacafe.com/watch/828731/trigger_green_traffic_lights/ (very efficient on demand "simple' trick :))... and this http://www.metacafe.com/watch/835982/how_to_make_blood_appear_in_body_withou t_any_wound/ (I mean knowing "alchemy" - the best effective and flexible way to use the mix of the modern programming languages/technologies within VS) often helps to keep (new) customers coming etc.etc. :) ) IOW I'm voting/going for being proficient in several programming languages/technologies to be able to speed-up/slow-down when needed (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/880972/viewty/ ) but I'm also voting for/going to use VS IDE as the base (limiting) framework to stay focused on mainstream technologies/development tools, which VS IDE brings so plenty these days... But I'd mainly "limit" myself by VS IDE -enabled programming languages, technologies and .NET Framework for developing core functionality of my customers' applications because VS look like universal and efficient enough for the tasks I'm going to work on: the rest of the tasks if they come I'd subcontract to anybody else with pleasure... And then I (hope) I will have enough spare time for the pleasure of playing and watching tennis http://www.metacafe.com/watch/770613/maria_sharapova/ and traveling to watch the funny events like this one http://www.metacafe.com/watch/786303/bathroom_break/ :) Just wanted to make funny and joyful this becoming a little bit "religious" and boring thread... Sorry if my this posting may sound "religious and boring" for somebody here... Thanks :) -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:04 AM To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Renaming DBA-VB LOL! That was a hoot! -----Original Message----- From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby ... 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