Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Tue Mar 17 15:53:08 CDT 2009
Thank you SCRUM team, let's wait for Doug estimatiion to arrive. Meanwhile shoudlnt' we try to select distributed source control system? - Here are two candidates: 1. BAZAAR http://bazaar-vcs.org/ and https://launchpad.net/ and 2. CODEPLEX http://www.codeplex.com/ I must say I didn't use nor the first nor the second. Shouldn't we try BAZAAR via Launchpad first of all? Bazaar/Lanchpad seems to be a really lightweight yet powerful source control system. Shouldn't we just create a project in Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/) and to put some files in it and just try to check-out/edit/check-in them distributed way and see what happens - just plain test text files? Please propose other options to consider for distributed source control. Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com> To: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>,"Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues." <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:57:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [dba-VB]SCRUM: Northwind .NET Product BackLog Planning Game... > I agree also - and thanks for thinking it through. > > I was beginning to think the only place cannonballers would > see me would be at the bottom of the pool! > > - > Michael R Mattys > MapPoint and Database Dev > www.mattysconsulting.com > - > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru> > To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues." > <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-VB]SCRUM: Northwind .NET Product BackLog Planning Game... > > > > > > Hi SCRUM team at all, > > > > I have got ProductBacklog items estimations from Mike, Gustav, John and > > myself. > > > > I'm waiting for estimations to come from Doug. He has just informed me he > > has important private events today, and it may happen he will not have > > time to make his estimations. > > > > What we can do now? I'd propose to wait for Doug's estimations to come, > > and meanwhile start constructive discussion how we can get this project > > developed in context when we have different .NET experience but taking > > into account that most of the work to do is simple for experienced > > developers(whatever modern developmen tools they use) mainly design and > > almost no coding work. At least it looks so from here (as shown in some > > samples I have posted already on MS Live dba-VB Group's SkyDrive). > > > > I'd expect that adding some simple introductory tutorials consisting > > mainly from screenshots we should be able to get the team members > > beginning their .NET development practice skilled enough to develop any > > NorthWind .NET form or report... > > > > I suppose we plan develop *not* "industry strong" .NET application in this > > project but a sample .NET Winform desktop application. When that done we > > can go further... where? we will decide as we proceed... > > > > When I will get estimations from Doug I plan to post all of our > > estimations here - is that OK with you? > > I must say the current estimations do differ considerably therefore there > > is some work to do in coordinating them. > > In SCRUM four hours are usually spent for the ProductBackLog initial > > planning: I'd propose to "spread" these four hours within this week > > discussion IOW no still real C# development within this week but > > discussing ProductBacklog and planning first SCRUM Sprint and related > > issues, and starting real development next Monday - OK? > > > > Thank you. > > > > -- > > Shamil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> > > To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming > > issues."<dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:15:09 +0300 > > Subject: Re: [dba-VB]SCRUM: Northwind .NET Product BackLog Planning > > Game... > > > >> > >> Hi SCRUM team at all, > >> > >> I have got ProductBacklog items estimations from Mike. > >> I have made mine over weekend. > >> > >> Waiting here for estimations from Gustav, Doug and John to come today > >> then I will immediately post all of them here to start coordination of > >> our estimations for everybody to get comfortable with them, and to > >> present them after coordination to ProductOwner (Mark) to plan > >> implementation/release... > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> -- > >> Shamil > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru> > >> To: dba-VB <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:21:13 +0300 > >> Subject: [dba-VB] SCRUM: Northwind .NET Product BackLog Planning Game... > >> > >> > Hi SCRUM Team, > >> > > >> > Please estimate "ideal hours" to develop our first project product > >> > backlog items using "SCRUM planning poker cards" with the following > >> > values: > >> > > >> > 0, 1/2, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 20, ??? > >> > > >> > Please send your estimations to me (Shamil.Salakhetdinov AT gmail.com) > >> > to make here a common worksheet with all the estimations to use them on > >> > the next estimation round. > >> > > >> > Please do not post your estimations here on this first round to make > >> > first round estimantions as independent as possible - > >> > http://www.crisp.se/planningpoker/ > >> > > >> > Below is the list of BackLog items with some estimations I made - just > >> > as examples. Three question marks estimation means that it's unclear > >> > how much time it will take to make that item implemented (Here it's a > >> > pivot form, which doesn't have built-in direct correspondence in .NET > >> > WinForms hence it's unclear what we will do here and how much time this > >> > work will take. If you know the answer - please make your more > >> > definitive estimation for this item.) > >> > > >> > I made my below several estimations assuming we will use built-in > >> > WinForms features as in samples I used previously. > >> > > >> > I have made my own estimation of all the items already - it looks like > >> > we should fit well 100 hours (20x5). > >> > > >> > Please ask your questions. > >> > Please make your estimations. > >> > > >> > You can download workbook with BackLog items here: > >> > > >> > https://cid-000971dc34dc18c0.groups.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Documents/NorthWind.NET/SCRUM%7C_Planning%7C_Game.xls?ccr=365 > >> > > >> > or here: > >> > > >> > http://www1.atwiki.com/dba-vb/pages/5.html > >> > (http://www1.atwiki.com/dba-vb?cmd=upload&act=open&pageid=5&file=SCRUM_Planning_Game.xls) > >> > > >> > > >> > Thank you. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Shamil > >> > > >> > P.S. > >> > > >> > > >> > FORMS > >> > ===== > >> > > >> > 1 Categories > >> > 2 Customer Labels Dialog => 1 > >> > 3 Customer Orders > >> > 4 Customer Orders Subform1 => 1 > >> > 5 Customer Orders Subform2 > >> > 6 Customer Phone List > >> > 7 Customers => 2 > >> > 8 Employees => 5 > >> > 9 Main Switchboard > >> > 10 Orders > >> > 11 Orders Subform => 1 > >> > 12 Product List > >> > 13 Products > >> > 14 Quarterly Orders > >> > 15 Quarterly Orders Subform > >> > 16 Sales Analysis => ??? > >> > 17 Sales Analysis Subform1 => ??? > >> > 18 Sales Analysis Subform2 => ??? > >> > 19 Sales by Year Dialog > >> > 20 Sales Reports Dialog > >> > 21 Startup > >> > 22 Suppliers > >> > > >> > REPORTS > >> > ======= > >> > 1 Alphabetical List of Products => 2 > >> > 2 Catalog > >> > 3 Catalog Subreport > >> > 4 Customer Labels > >> > 5 Employee Sales by Country > >> > 6 Invoice => 5 > >> > 7 Products by Category > >> > 8 Sales by Category > >> > 9 Sales by Category Subreport > >> > 10 Sales by Year > >> > 11 Sales by Year Subreport > >> > 12 Sales Totals by Amount > >> > 13 Summary of Sales by Quarter > >> > 14 Summary of Sales by Year > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > dba-VB mailing list > >> > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > >> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dba-VB mailing list > >> dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > >> http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-VB mailing list > > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >