Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Tue Mar 24 05:16:36 CDT 2009
Hello Mark and SCRUM Team,
Thank you Mark for updated ProductBacklog.
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if I am not behaving as ideal product owner
>>>
We're not looking for an ideal ProductOwner - just for a perfect one :) And you're perfect currently in this role. I suppose the SCRUM team will agree. :)
Based on your SCRUM Sprint planning I have made first form CategoriesForm, SwitchBoard form was done yesterday - so far I have got 5 hours plan for this week fulfilled with quite some time left. And I plan to spend that time to answer the questions/make "How Tos" to help SCRUM team members starting their .NET Framework development practice. Please ask your questions, any questions, plase question everything I have done so far in the current version of our solution, which is currently committed to our SVN server, and also zipped and uploaded to MS Live dba-VB SkyDrive folder:
dba-VB > SkyDrive > Documents > NorthWind.NET > Conversion Project
Note: I didn't try to make the currently committed designs/code perfect - just good enough for our ProductOwner to test, and accept or reject 'DONE' status with comments/remarks what to do additionally to have them definitely 'DONE'.
I'd propose to start working on the following forms first of all:
- customers 2
- products 3
- suppliers 2
-----------------------
- employees 3
- orders 3
with first three being relatively simple and therefore being the best candidates to be developed by SCRUM team members starting with .NET and the last two ones being more complicated - I'd propose select one of them to be developed by Gustav (OK Gustav?), and I will make another one within this week. We will probably do some more forms done/started during this week - and then we will be OK with our progress...
Note: I have moved XL product backlog/planning workbook into \!Documents subfolder of \Northwind.NET.FE folder/project because having it under the root folder was somehow not good for Visual Studio.
If you tried to build and run yesterday version you could have had the following message in the Output window of Visual Studio:
=====================================================
Compile complete -- 0 errors, 0 warnings
C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.5\Microsoft.Common.targets(2525,9): error MSB3021: Unable to copy file "obj\Debug\Northwind.NET.FE.exe" to "..\Bin\Northwind.NET.FE.exe". The process cannot access the file '..\Bin\Northwind.NET.FE.exe' because it is being used by another process.
Done building project "Northwind.NET.FE.csproj" -- FAILED.
========== Build: 0 succeeded, 1 failed, 1 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
it it's fixed now by adding:
GC.Collect();
System.Environment.Exit(0);
to FormClosed event of SwitchBoard form.
Thank you.
--
Shamil
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com>
To: Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>, "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues." <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:02:22 +0000
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] SCRUM: Northwind Conversion Project
> Hello Group,
> I have updated the Excel sheet that contains the estimates to include the
> product owners choices. Based on my selections, you appears to need 39
> units of work out of the total 87 units for work estimated. I hope that I
> understand this all correctly and that I have made appropriate selections.
>
> I tried to select simple forms initially, but as Shamil has suggested that
> we do approx 40 units in the first week, I had to include almost all the
> forms. I do hope that is OK. To pad the numbers, I include a few reports
> also, again, I hope that it is OK that I have given so much work in the
> first phase.
>
> Shamil, if I have something wrong here, please let me know, so that I can
> update / correct my selections.
>
> In our source code repository, I have created a new folder named documents,
> and placed the newest file in there. I hope it will download for you all.
> Let me know if you cannot connect to it.
>
> For those that are observing the project from a distance, I have uploaded
> the spreadsheet here also to the skydrive account. If anyone wants to email
> me, I can also directly forward them the doc.
>
> https://cid-000971dc34dc18c0.groups.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/.Documents/NorthWind.NET/ProductBackLog?uc=1
>
>
> FYI, when I click my folder here on my laptop and right clicked and selected
> SVN Update, I immediately got the latest files from Shamil including all
> source code. When you do the same, you will get his files and also my new
> version of the excel doc. Not only that, but we can all see that we are now
> on version 8 of the source code, I did the first few, and it looks like
> Shamil did about five updates today, I hope this logging is useful to the
> team.
>
> Any questions, just ask. Shamil, if I am not behaving as ideal product
> owner, please steer me in the right direction.
>
> thanks all,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> 2009/3/23 Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
>
> > Hi SCRUM team at all,
> >
> > I have got put source files on Mark.s Visual SVN server - I used:
> >
> > - Tortoise SVN
> >
> > http://www.visualsvn.com/visualsvn/download/tortoisesvn/
> >
> > - Visual SVN (30 days trial - per seat license cost is $49)
> >
> > http://www.visualsvn.com/visualsvn/
> >
> > Everything worked smoothly.
> >
> > Please try to get the files from SVN server using SVN command line utility
> > as was shown in Mark's sample or using Visual SVN directly from within
> > Visual Studio.
> >
> > Visual SVN short but good enough "how to" is here:
> >
> > http://www.visualsvn.com/visualsvn/doc/getting-started/
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > --
> > Shamil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
> > To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues."<
> > dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:54:47 +0300
> > Subject: Re: [dba-VB]SCRUM: Northwind Conversion Project
> >
> > >
> > > FYI: URLs of MS Live dba-VB folders with published files (watch line
> > wraps):
> > >
> > > 1. Database to attach and its current backup to restore db from
> > >
> > >
> > https://cid-000971dc34dc18c0.groups.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/.Documents/NorthWind.NET/Database
> > >
> > > NorthwindNET.mdf
> > > NorthwindNET_log.ldf
> > > NorthWindNET_DB_BackUp_20090323.zip
> > >
> > > 2. NET Winforms solution to start with
> > >
> > >
> > https://cid-000971dc34dc18c0.groups.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/.Documents/NorthWind.NET/Conversion%20Project
> > >
> > > Northwind.NET_20090323.zip
> > >
> > > --
> > > Shamil
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
> > > To: dba-VB <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:49:19 +0300
> > > Subject: [dba-VB] SCRUM: Northwind Conversion Project
> > >
> > > > Hi SCRUM Team and All,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for my being a bit quiet during last days - that was a release of
> > one rather advanced C# project I was heavily bound to. It's completed now.
> > > >
> > > > I have got prepared our project database and a C# 2008 solution to
> > start with.
> > > > I have put them to MS Live dba-VB (see below) - please try to get the
> > files from there.
> > > > I will try now to connect to Mark's server, and to get uploaded all the
> > source files there, and then see how it will work with
> > check-out/edit/check-in - if/when all that work OK we will have source code
> > control environment tested and ready to use, or is it ready OK, Mark, and I
> > just should follow your instructions you posted here last week? (if
> > something will not work somehow we can start our development anyway - I can
> > keep getting developed source files, put them into solution manually and
> > then publish the new solution with all updates.)
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile please spend your working hour for today by downloading the
> > database and solution, setting them on your systems and playing with them a
> > little, and posting your questions here - this current solution is supposed
> > to be a base for all the other forms/reports we will develop during the
> > coming months.
> > > >
> > > > To Mark: we (SCRUM Team) are waiting for first SCRUM Sprint (~40hours)
> > items to be developed for us to start actual development of this project. Do
> > you need some more input from us to make this
> > > >
> > > > To all the members of SCRUM team: do you think we can start
> > developing/designing first set of forms and reports tomorrow?
> > > >
> > > > Last note: I plan to setup TargetProcess (
> > http://www.targetprocess.com/) tomorrow for us to use this SCRUM process
> > tracing/management tool+
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Shamil
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Files are currently uploaded here on MS Live:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Database to attach and its current backup to restore db from
> > > >
> > > > MS Live dba-VB
> > > > SkyDrive
> > > > Documents
> > > > NorthWind.NET
> > > > DataBase
> > > > NorthwindNET.mdf
> > > > NorthwindNET_log.ldf
> > > > NorthWindNET_DB_BackUp_20090323.zip
> > > >
> > > > 2. NET Winforms solution to start with
> > > >
> > > > MS Live dba-VB
> > > > SkyDrive
> > > > Documents
> > > > NorthWind.NET
> > > > Conversion Project
> > > > Northwind.NET_20090323.zip
> > > >
> > > >
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