[dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication

Hi Mike,

Don't worry. 
No problem at all. 
Your remark is accepted here with pleasure.
If you think I like open source that wouldn't be true :)
But I have to accept that "open source software phenomena" as reality, and
to find how to live with it with as little as possible "damage" to my own
and other developers business. You know I started my development carrier
when there was no yet that phenomena. Nowadays I'd probably not go into
programming because of "corruption" of that profession introduced by open
source. Although AFAIS the "greed" of commercial solutions' software shops
together with rather low quality of many of that solutions especially in
1990-ies was one of the driving forces of the "open source software".... 

You convinced me - I'd try to use as little as possible open source software
solutions - none will be ideal.

And sharing experience as we're doing here and making sample solutions etc.
- I'll continue doing that as this activity helps to learn new technologies,
helps to minimize routine everyday work etc.

Thank you.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:14 AM
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication

Shamil,

I wasn't trying to be rude, I really don't understand
the Open-Source thing.

Really.

-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues." 
<dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business 
objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication


> Shamil,
>
> Doesn't it simply mean that you'll put a lot of web mapping
> programmers in a lower income bracket and only big companies
> will benefit?
>
> -
> Michael R Mattys
> MapPoint and Database Dev
> www.mattysconsulting.com
> -
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.'"
> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> OK. If I can "GET" Mapstraction with something else open source (read
>> "free") to implement the referred below functionality then I'd try to
>> "GIVE"
>> back developed here free/open source DotNetNuke (DNN) module wrapping 
>> that
>> functionality to be reused by others - would that be a "fair exchange"? 
>> :)
>>
>> Maybe I should ask it that way - do you know what provider Mapstraction
>> talks to here:
>>
>> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=26
>>
>> I mean you mentioned that the above site's map navigation is developed
>> using
>> Mapstraction - maybe you know also what GIS data/API provider it's used
>> there?
>>
>> The only functionality, which is needed here currently is:
>>
>> - to show a country map with regions/states;
>> - highlight/show tooltip of region/state on mouse move;
>> - zoom region/state when it's clicked by mouse;
>> - highlight sub-regions (if any).
>>
>> Purchasing advanced commercial GIS systems for the above functionality is
>> looking currently excessive here (for my customer).
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:58 PM
>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application
>>
>> Shamil,
>>
>> I can't be quoted as an authority on this because I don't really
>> understand "open source" in a world based upon "GET" instead
>> of "GIVE"  ... perhaps I need to attend LAW school (ha ha!)
>>
>> However, It appears that OSM is free but Mapstraction does not yet
>> 'talk' with OpenStreetMaps. They are planning to do so.
>>
>> Then again, they seem to be asking for participation in the project ...
>>
>> -
>> Michael R Mattys
>> MapPoint and Database Dev
>> www.mattysconsulting.com
>> -
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
>> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming 
>> issues.'"
>> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Would that be correct assumption that using Mapstraction with
>>> OpenStreetMaps
>>> is free for commercial Web applications? And when my customer will get
>>> some
>>> "fat" it will be not that complicated to switch to GoogleMaps or other
>>> commercial GIS solution providers as Mapstraction provides good
>>> JavaScript
>>> abstraction layer?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shamil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:41 AM
>>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Map search/navigation/business
>>> objectspresentation/drawing in ASP.NET application
>>>
>>> Hi Shamil,
>>>
>>> It is Mapstraction
>>>
>>> -
>>> Michael R Mattys
>>> MapPoint and Database Dev
>>> www.mattysconsulting.com
>>> -
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
>>> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming
>>> issues.'"
>>> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:38 PM
>>> Subject: [dba-VB] Map search/navigation/business
>>> objectspresentation/drawing
>>>
>>> in ASP.NET application
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hae a project where I was requested to implement something like the
>>>> following map search/navigation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=34
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> in an ASP.NET application. The customer is a small company, and they
>>>> can't
>>>> currently afford Google Maps API rates for commercial usage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you know any economic alternatives/third-party tools as e.g. on the
>>>> referred web page?
>>>>
>>>> BTW, do you know what tools used for map navigation on that referred
>>>> above
>>>> web page?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Shamil
>>>>