Mark Breen
marklbreen at gmail.com
Fri Sep 4 03:51:23 CDT 2009
Hello Shamil and Mike, Shamil, perhaps I am missing something here, but I would have assumed that you are free to use Google Maps for your application. Why can you not? Of did I miss something that you need a wrapper for Google maps? When I searched on SnowCovered I see plenty of Google Map providers, so I guess you must be looking for something else? thanks Mark 2009/9/4 Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > Hi Mike, > > Don't worry. > No problem at all. > Your remark is accepted here with pleasure. > If you think I like open source that wouldn't be true :) > But I have to accept that "open source software phenomena" as reality, and > to find how to live with it with as little as possible "damage" to my own > and other developers business. You know I started my development carrier > when there was no yet that phenomena. Nowadays I'd probably not go into > programming because of "corruption" of that profession introduced by open > source. Although AFAIS the "greed" of commercial solutions' software shops > together with rather low quality of many of that solutions especially in > 1990-ies was one of the driving forces of the "open source software".... > > You convinced me - I'd try to use as little as possible open source > software > solutions - none will be ideal. > > And sharing experience as we're doing here and making sample solutions etc. > - I'll continue doing that as this activity helps to learn new > technologies, > helps to minimize routine everyday work etc. > > Thank you. > > -- > Shamil > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:14 AM > To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues. > Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business > objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication > > Shamil, > > I wasn't trying to be rude, I really don't understand > the Open-Source thing. > > Really. > > - > Michael R Mattys > MapPoint and Database Dev > www.mattysconsulting.com > - > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com> > To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues." > <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business > objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication > > > > Shamil, > > > > Doesn't it simply mean that you'll put a lot of web mapping > > programmers in a lower income bracket and only big companies > > will benefit? > > > > - > > Michael R Mattys > > MapPoint and Database Dev > > www.mattysconsulting.com > > - > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > > To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming > issues.'" > > <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business > > objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication > > > > > >> Hi Mike, > >> > >> OK. If I can "GET" Mapstraction with something else open source (read > >> "free") to implement the referred below functionality then I'd try to > >> "GIVE" > >> back developed here free/open source DotNetNuke (DNN) module wrapping > >> that > >> functionality to be reused by others - would that be a "fair exchange"? > >> :) > >> > >> Maybe I should ask it that way - do you know what provider Mapstraction > >> talks to here: > >> > >> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=26 > >> > >> I mean you mentioned that the above site's map navigation is developed > >> using > >> Mapstraction - maybe you know also what GIS data/API provider it's used > >> there? > >> > >> The only functionality, which is needed here currently is: > >> > >> - to show a country map with regions/states; > >> - highlight/show tooltip of region/state on mouse move; > >> - zoom region/state when it's clicked by mouse; > >> - highlight sub-regions (if any). > >> > >> Purchasing advanced commercial GIS systems for the above functionality > is > >> looking currently excessive here (for my customer). > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> -- > >> Shamil > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys > >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:58 PM > >> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues. > >> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business > >> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application > >> > >> Shamil, > >> > >> I can't be quoted as an authority on this because I don't really > >> understand "open source" in a world based upon "GET" instead > >> of "GIVE" ... perhaps I need to attend LAW school (ha ha!) > >> > >> However, It appears that OSM is free but Mapstraction does not yet > >> 'talk' with OpenStreetMaps. They are planning to do so. > >> > >> Then again, they seem to be asking for participation in the project ... > >> > >> - > >> Michael R Mattys > >> MapPoint and Database Dev > >> www.mattysconsulting.com > >> - > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > >> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming > >> issues.'" > >> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:53 AM > >> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business > >> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application > >> > >> > >>> Hi Mike, > >>> > >>> Thank you. > >>> > >>> Would that be correct assumption that using Mapstraction with > >>> OpenStreetMaps > >>> is free for commercial Web applications? And when my customer will get > >>> some > >>> "fat" it will be not that complicated to switch to GoogleMaps or other > >>> commercial GIS solution providers as Mapstraction provides good > >>> JavaScript > >>> abstraction layer? > >>> > >>> Thank you. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Shamil > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:41 AM > >>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues. > >>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Map search/navigation/business > >>> objectspresentation/drawing in ASP.NET application > >>> > >>> Hi Shamil, > >>> > >>> It is Mapstraction > >>> > >>> - > >>> Michael R Mattys > >>> MapPoint and Database Dev > >>> www.mattysconsulting.com > >>> - > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > >>> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming > >>> issues.'" > >>> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:38 PM > >>> Subject: [dba-VB] Map search/navigation/business > >>> objectspresentation/drawing > >>> > >>> in ASP.NET application > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi All, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I hae a project where I was requested to implement something like the > >>>> following map search/navigation > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=34 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> in an ASP.NET application. The customer is a small company, and they > >>>> can't > >>>> currently afford Google Maps API rates for commercial usage. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Do you know any economic alternatives/third-party tools as e.g. on the > >>>> referred web page? > >>>> > >>>> BTW, do you know what tools used for map navigation on that referred > >>>> above > >>>> web page? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Shamil > >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-VB mailing list > dba-VB at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-vb > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >