[dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business objectspresentation/drawinginASP.NETapplication

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Fri Sep 4 09:35:29 CDT 2009


That is a rather steep fee schedule however.  I find the fee difference interesting as well. 
Significantly more expensive for corporate usage than public.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Mike Mattys wrote:
> To be sure, Google is operating exactly as it should in this world
> according to all that is taught in the 'best' ivy league business colleges
> and the 'wisdom' of all financial programs on television.
> 
> No one understands the consequences down the road.
> 
> One doesn't observe the pharmaceutical companies adopting an open
> source philosophy, either.
> 
> -
> Michael R Mattys
> MapPoint and Database Dev
> www.mattysconsulting.com
> -
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.'" 
> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business 
> objectspresentation/drawinginASP.NETapplication
> 
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Here is the info on GoogleMaps (API) usage in commercial applications - I
>> have got it from Mike:
>>
>> <<<
>> For External Applications (public facing sites or customer facing 
>> extranets)
>> * $10,000 for 1 million page views per year
>> * $20,000 for 2 million page views per year
>> * $30,000 for 3 million page views per year
>> * $40,000 for 5 million page views per year
>> * Please call for pricing above 5 external million page views per year
>>
>> For Internal Applications (internal applications, non-customer facing)
>> * $10,000 for 250K page views per year
>> * $20,000 for 500K views per year
>> * $30,000 for 750K page views per year
>> * $40,000 for 1.5 million page views per year
>> * Please call for pricing above 1.5 million internal page views per year
>>
>> FAQ
>> How can I try out the Google Maps API?
>> For development purpose you are authorized to use a Free Google Maps
>> license key as an Enterprise License key for 30 days. This means that
>> you are licensed to use Google Maps behind the firewall, in an
>> internal application, or as part of paid or premium content for 30
>> days (e.g. the Enterprisefull licensing agreement). The 30 day free
>> trial is still subject to a limit of 15,000 geocodes per day.
>>
>> To sign up for the key, please visit
>> http://code.google.com/apis/maps/signup.html
>> If you have already
>> signed up for a key, please mark the date of this e-mail as the start
>> of your 30 day free trial.
>> AFAIS GoogleMaps is not free - and if used from available on SnowCovered 
>> DNN
>> modules one have to pay for both - a DNN module license and Google Maps 
>> API
>> usage.
>>
>> Correct?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:51 PM
>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>>
>> Hello Shamil and Mike,
>> Shamil, perhaps I am missing something here, but I would have assumed that
>> you are free to use Google Maps for your application.  Why can you not? 
>> Of
>> did I miss something that you need a wrapper for Google maps?
>>
>> When I searched on SnowCovered I see plenty of Google Map providers, so I
>> guess you must be looking for something else?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/9/4 Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Don't worry.
>>> No problem at all.
>>> Your remark is accepted here with pleasure.
>>> If you think I like open source that wouldn't be true :)
>>> But I have to accept that "open source software phenomena" as reality, 
>>> and
>>> to find how to live with it with as little as possible "damage" to my own
>>> and other developers business. You know I started my development carrier
>>> when there was no yet that phenomena. Nowadays I'd probably not go into
>>> programming because of "corruption" of that profession introduced by open
>>> source. Although AFAIS the "greed" of commercial solutions' software 
>>> shops
>>> together with rather low quality of many of that solutions especially in
>>> 1990-ies was one of the driving forces of the "open source software"....
>>>
>>> You convinced me - I'd try to use as little as possible open source
>>> software
>>> solutions - none will be ideal.
>>>
>>> And sharing experience as we're doing here and making sample solutions
>> etc.
>>> - I'll continue doing that as this activity helps to learn new
>>> technologies,
>>> helps to minimize routine everyday work etc.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shamil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:14 AM
>>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
>>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>>>
>>> Shamil,
>>>
>>> I wasn't trying to be rude, I really don't understand
>>> the Open-Source thing.
>>>
>>> Really.
>>>
>>> -
>>> Michael R Mattys
>>> MapPoint and Database Dev
>>> www.mattysconsulting.com
>>> -
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
>>> To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues."
>>> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
>>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>>>
>>>
>>>> Shamil,
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't it simply mean that you'll put a lot of web mapping
>>>> programmers in a lower income bracket and only big companies
>>>> will benefit?
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Michael R Mattys
>>>> MapPoint and Database Dev
>>>> www.mattysconsulting.com
>>>> -
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
>>>> To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming
>>> issues.'"
>>>> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
>>>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. If I can "GET" Mapstraction with something else open source (read
>>>>> "free") to implement the referred below functionality then I'd try to
>>>>> "GIVE"
>>>>> back developed here free/open source DotNetNuke (DNN) module wrapping
>>>>> that
>>>>> functionality to be reused by others - would that be a "fair 
>>>>> exchange"?
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I should ask it that way - do you know what provider 
>>>>> Mapstraction
>>>>> talks to here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=26
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean you mentioned that the above site's map navigation is developed
>>>>> using
>>>>> Mapstraction - maybe you know also what GIS data/API provider it's 
>>>>> used
>>>>> there?
>>>>>
>>>>> The only functionality, which is needed here currently is:
>>>>>
>>>>> - to show a country map with regions/states;
>>>>> - highlight/show tooltip of region/state on mouse move;
>>>>> - zoom region/state when it's clicked by mouse;
>>>>> - highlight sub-regions (if any).
>>>>>
>>>>> Purchasing advanced commercial GIS systems for the above functionality
>>> is
>>>>> looking currently excessive here (for my customer).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Shamil
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:58 PM
>>>>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
>>>>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application
>>>>>
>>>>> Shamil,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't be quoted as an authority on this because I don't really
>>>>> understand "open source" in a world based upon "GET" instead
>>>>> of "GIVE"  ... perhaps I need to attend LAW school (ha ha!)
>>>>>
>>>>> However, It appears that OSM is free but Mapstraction does not yet
>>>>> 'talk' with OpenStreetMaps. They are planning to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then again, they seem to be asking for participation in the project 
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Michael R Mattys
>>>>> MapPoint and Database Dev
>>>>> www.mattysconsulting.com
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