Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Fri Sep 4 11:26:00 CDT 2009
Hi Mike,
It looks like GoogleMaps API (not Premier version) can be used for free even
on commercial web sites with some limitations and my customer business
should fit them:
<<<
http://code.google.com/intl/en/apis/maps/faq.html
Can I use the Google Maps API on a commercial website?
As long as your site is generally accessible to consumers without
charge, you may use the Google Maps API. For example, if your website is
supported by advertising, it likely falls within the Google Maps API Terms
of Service. If you charge people to place information on your map (e.g. to
list their homes for sale), but you display this information using the
Google Maps API on a free part of your site, you'll also meet the Google
Maps API Terms of Service.
However, not all commercial uses are allowed. If your site meets any of
the following criteria you must use Google Maps API Premier:
* Your site is only available to paying customers.
* Your site is only accessible within your company or on your
intranet.
Remember, Google reserves the right to suspend or terminate your use of
the Google Maps API at any time, so please ensure that you read the Terms of
Service carefully.
>>>
Correct?
Thank you.
--
Shamil
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:41 PM
To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
objectspresentation/drawinginASP.NETapplication
To be sure, Google is operating exactly as it should in this world
according to all that is taught in the 'best' ivy league business colleges
and the 'wisdom' of all financial programs on television.
No one understands the consequences down the road.
One doesn't observe the pharmaceutical companies adopting an open
source philosophy, either.
-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.'"
<dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
objectspresentation/drawinginASP.NETapplication
> Hi Mark,
>
> Here is the info on GoogleMaps (API) usage in commercial applications - I
> have got it from Mike:
>
> <<<
> For External Applications (public facing sites or customer facing
> extranets)
> * $10,000 for 1 million page views per year
> * $20,000 for 2 million page views per year
> * $30,000 for 3 million page views per year
> * $40,000 for 5 million page views per year
> * Please call for pricing above 5 external million page views per year
>
> For Internal Applications (internal applications, non-customer facing)
> * $10,000 for 250K page views per year
> * $20,000 for 500K views per year
> * $30,000 for 750K page views per year
> * $40,000 for 1.5 million page views per year
> * Please call for pricing above 1.5 million internal page views per year
>
> FAQ
> How can I try out the Google Maps API?
> For development purpose you are authorized to use a Free Google Maps
> license key as an Enterprise License key for 30 days. This means that
> you are licensed to use Google Maps behind the firewall, in an
> internal application, or as part of paid or premium content for 30
> days (e.g. the Enterprisefull licensing agreement). The 30 day free
> trial is still subject to a limit of 15,000 geocodes per day.
>
> To sign up for the key, please visit
> http://code.google.com/apis/maps/signup.html
> If you have already
> signed up for a key, please mark the date of this e-mail as the start
> of your 30 day free trial.
>>>>
>
> AFAIS GoogleMaps is not free - and if used from available on SnowCovered
> DNN
> modules one have to pay for both - a DNN module license and Google Maps
> API
> usage.
>
> Correct?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:51 PM
> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>
> Hello Shamil and Mike,
> Shamil, perhaps I am missing something here, but I would have assumed that
> you are free to use Google Maps for your application. Why can you not?
> Of
> did I miss something that you need a wrapper for Google maps?
>
> When I searched on SnowCovered I see plenty of Google Map providers, so I
> guess you must be looking for something else?
>
> thanks
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> 2009/9/4 Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Don't worry.
>> No problem at all.
>> Your remark is accepted here with pleasure.
>> If you think I like open source that wouldn't be true :)
>> But I have to accept that "open source software phenomena" as reality,
>> and
>> to find how to live with it with as little as possible "damage" to my own
>> and other developers business. You know I started my development carrier
>> when there was no yet that phenomena. Nowadays I'd probably not go into
>> programming because of "corruption" of that profession introduced by open
>> source. Although AFAIS the "greed" of commercial solutions' software
>> shops
>> together with rather low quality of many of that solutions especially in
>> 1990-ies was one of the driving forces of the "open source software"....
>>
>> You convinced me - I'd try to use as little as possible open source
>> software
>> solutions - none will be ideal.
>>
>> And sharing experience as we're doing here and making sample solutions
> etc.
>> - I'll continue doing that as this activity helps to learn new
>> technologies,
>> helps to minimize routine everyday work etc.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:14 AM
>> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>>
>> Shamil,
>>
>> I wasn't trying to be rude, I really don't understand
>> the Open-Source thing.
>>
>> Really.
>>
>> -
>> Michael R Mattys
>> MapPoint and Database Dev
>> www.mattysconsulting.com
>> -
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
>> To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues."
>> <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
>> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>>
>>
>> > Shamil,
>> >
>> > Doesn't it simply mean that you'll put a lot of web mapping
>> > programmers in a lower income bracket and only big companies
>> > will benefit?
>> >
>> > -
>> > Michael R Mattys
>> > MapPoint and Database Dev
>> > www.mattysconsulting.com
>> > -
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
>> > To: "'Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming
>> issues.'"
>> > <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:03 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [dba-VB]Mapsearch/navigation/business
>> > objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NETapplication
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Mike,
>> >>
>> >> OK. If I can "GET" Mapstraction with something else open source (read
>> >> "free") to implement the referred below functionality then I'd try to
>> >> "GIVE"
>> >> back developed here free/open source DotNetNuke (DNN) module wrapping
>> >> that
>> >> functionality to be reused by others - would that be a "fair
>> >> exchange"?
>> >> :)
>> >>
>> >> Maybe I should ask it that way - do you know what provider
>> >> Mapstraction
>> >> talks to here:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/search_easy.asp#loc_country=26
>> >>
>> >> I mean you mentioned that the above site's map navigation is developed
>> >> using
>> >> Mapstraction - maybe you know also what GIS data/API provider it's
>> >> used
>> >> there?
>> >>
>> >> The only functionality, which is needed here currently is:
>> >>
>> >> - to show a country map with regions/states;
>> >> - highlight/show tooltip of region/state on mouse move;
>> >> - zoom region/state when it's clicked by mouse;
>> >> - highlight sub-regions (if any).
>> >>
>> >> Purchasing advanced commercial GIS systems for the above functionality
>> is
>> >> looking currently excessive here (for my customer).
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Shamil
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> >> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:58 PM
>> >> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>> >> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Mapsearch/navigation/business
>> >> objectspresentation/drawing inASP.NET application
>> >>
>> >> Shamil,
>> >>
>> >> I can't be quoted as an authority on this because I don't really
>> >> understand "open source" in a world based upon "GET" instead
>> >> of "GIVE" ... perhaps I need to attend LAW school (ha ha!)
>> >>
>> >> However, It appears that OSM is free but Mapstraction does not yet
>> >> 'talk' with OpenStreetMaps. They are planning to do so.
>> >>
>> >> Then again, they seem to be asking for participation in the project
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> -
>> >> Michael R Mattys
>> >> MapPoint and Database Dev
>> >> www.mattysconsulting.com
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