Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Tue Mar 16 15:24:47 CDT 2010
There's a neutral on all automatics, can coast with those too, people
just don't, but I think this is getting a little off topic then we
already were! LOL
Drew
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From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS
2010
I'm with Charlotte. Drove a 79 Volare for about 200K miles with the
same
clutch. (That model was classified as one of the top 10 lemons of all
time.) Currently on my 2nd PT Cruiser with nary a clutch problem. I
prefer
them because even in Florida I can coast between traffic lights and up
to
stop signs. Helps my mpg be 4-5 miles better than the rated mileage.
Perry
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From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues."
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:54 PM
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2010
> This is like the bound-unbound religious discussion. YMMV. My
experience
> has been otherwise and I have replaced exactly one clutch in my car in
the
> 12 years I've had it ... when the clutch plate broke from metal
fatigue.
> You've been driving the wrong cars, Drew! LOL
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:30 AM
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> 2010
>
> It wasn't the best example. Needs a little more flushing out.
>
> For example, what you say about gas and brakes is true, for about 20
> years ago. The difference in fuel efficiency between the two nowadays
> is marginal, and CVTs out perform anything in City driving, and will
> advance even more as technology gets better. You wouldn't want to
> operate a transmission with a thousand gears, which is why an
automatic
> 'CVT' will increase engine efficiency beyond the limited loss of the
> controlling mechanism. Really, you can improve the fuel efficiency by
> not getting A/C too...but who wants to do that? As for Brakes, my
older
> cars did wear out faster between automatic and manual. But in my
newer
> cars, brake life is majorly extended. Properly maintained brakes work
> for quite sometime, and are VERY cheap an easy to replace. Clutches
> aren't. I would rather replace my brakes every year, then replace a
> clutch every four years.
>
> As for control....ummmm, other then it's easier to jump start your
car,
> that 'control' is an illusion. You are still making the car go
> backwards or forwards, based on the gas you are giving it. Is there
> some magic in having human control as to when you shift gears?
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:42 AM
> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS
> 2010
>
> I have to take exception to your transmission example, Drew. I've
> driven an manual transmission for most of my life and only drive an
> automatic under duress. It reduces wear on the brakes, saves gas and
> gives me the fine control I want over the vehicle. I don't see that
> curly brackets give any particular kind of control over anything.
> They're a visual representation of something, but for readability, you
> have to add all that wasted space or you can't make sense of the
> "helping hands". LOL
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:32 AM
> To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
> Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS
> 2010
>
> First, let me reiterate that I'm no longer a developer, so this is
just
> banter.
>
> With that said, how can you say:
>
> {
> Blah blah { blah blah ;}
> }
>
> Is easier then
>
> Blah blah
>
> ????
>
> I think this is like automatic vs. manual transmission. Granted, you
> want to use a manual transmission in a race car, but do you really
need
> to use it in everyday life? The nomenclature of C is just giving the
> illusion of control. Control over something that just isn't necessary
> anymore.... sort like caring about whether a program takes up 1k
versus
> 4k. Doesn't it really matter anymore?
>
> Drew
>
>
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