[dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010

This is so true,

I am working with Serif Webplus X4 which is really,  really cool. CMS
(content management systems)  the lot.  Forums, Facebook, all that sort of
stuff all there  for you at a few clicks if you want it.  We are moving into
a new realm.

The whole shebang about £40.

Once again, spot on Drew (snuggle)

Max



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From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:24 PM
To: dwaters at usinternet.com; Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related
programming issues.
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Recent Discussion from MS on VB.Net and C# in VS 2010

Just wanted to throw something else into this discussion.  We've debated a
lot of things, but the irony is that we will all be outdated eventually in
our paradigm of programming.

If you don't have an inkling of what I am talking about, you have never
encountered a 'modern' 'web programmer'.  Their use of the word 'programmer'
or 'developer' would be laughable to any of us on this list no matter what
our personal prejudices are.  Web development has gone through many changes,
from plain old HTML, to server side scripts to a multitude of client side
scripting/process languages.  To truly understand all of them at a code line
level is beyond a daunting task.
For example, I can write HTML and asp in my sleep.  I can fuddle through
php, and I'm actually not too bad at javascript.  VBScript is like walking,
but it's got a VERY limited use since it requires IE as a browser.

To deal with such a broad range (Java, Flash, Shockwave, etc.) of
tools/languages, there are more and more 'tools' out there which have taken
programming from ....

Hmmm, I'd say the best way to explain would be to compare an old PC, with a
very basic BIOS and DOS, to a brand new PC with Windows 7.  Heck, the modern
BIOSes are coming with mouse interfaces...MOUSE INTERFACES for pete's sake!


But these tools allow someone that would stare blankly at a few lines of
code, to whip up database backend systems on a webserver, with fancy
pictures, buttons, functions, etc, with no more complicated knowledge then
knowing how to spell d a t a b a s e.  It's way more art and color
coordination then actual development.  Granted, right now these tools are
way more generic then is necessary for a customized applications.
But the move to making point and click development tools is not too far in
the distant future.

Drew

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