[dba-VB] English understanding: Intrinsic?

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Tue Dec 9 15:02:32 CST 2014


"Что-то слишком закручено, как сказал кучер почтовой кареты, когда его настигла метель." ;)

-- Shamil


Tue, 9 Dec 2014 09:15:46 -0500 from "Michael Mattys" <michael at mattysconsulting.com>:
>"Да будет свет!" сказал монтёр и перерезал провода.
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>-  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellerism
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>Michael R Mattys
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>-----Original Message-----
>From:  dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 3:28 PM
>To: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>Subject: Re: [dba-VB] English understanding: Intrinsic?
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>Hi Gustav,
>
>well it is a matter of opinion and taste,
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>it is a subtle word with subtle meanings, if you found out that the author first language was not english, I would not be surprised, and if you told me he went to Cambridge and is an english expert, I would also not be surprised.
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>If I wanted to write plain ol' english to explain a point, I would consider other words such as
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>built-in
>automatic
>immediate
>direct
>inherent
>implicit
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>my wife always says:
>"its not the one way we all go, says the woman as she kissed her cow"
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>:)
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>Mark
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>On 16 July 2014 08:44, Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk > wrote:
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>> Hi Mark
>>
>> Thanks, it makes much more sense now.
>> However, given that explanation, my quote now makes less sense:
>>
>> >    Intrinsic morphing for byte, sbyte, char, int16, uint16, uint32 
>> > and
>> uint64.
>>
>> as the morphing is rather a built-in feature of the library, I guess.
>> Without that feature the library would still be useful, you would just 
>> have to handle the morphing otherwise.
>> Except, of course, if the author himself find this feature essential 
>> and would regard the library as crippled without the feature. Perhaps 
>> that is what he means. I could ask.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra:  dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
>> dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Mark Breen
>> Sendt: 15. juli 2014 21:31
>> Til: Discussion concerning Visual Basic and related programming issues.
>> Emne: Re: [dba-VB] English understanding: Intrinsic?
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am struggling to say why I would not use that word to describe the 
>> variables in a system.
>>
>> I like the description here
>> < http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/intrinsic >
>> including the additional example sentences.
>>
>> Religion might be used with that word.
>> Culture might be.
>> Deep emotional things may be intrinsic.
>>
>> Making money is intrinsic to MS
>> Helping others might be intrinsic to open source communities.
>>
>> I would not say "atomic transactions are intrinsic to MS SQL Server".
>>
>> Why not??  Somehow, it is not the right meaning, sql server does not 
>> believe it its heart that atomic transactions are important, they are 
>> just how it is built.
>>
>> Safety is not intrinsic in the bridge, Safety is intrinsic to the city 
>> that is building the new bridge.
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>>
>> Any help ?
>>
>> Intrinsic means built in at a deep, almost emotional level.
>>
>> There seems to be some intrinsically built into me that loves motorcycles.
>>
>> Debate is intrinsically built into John Colby!
>>
>> Mark
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>>
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>> On 15 July 2014 09:43, Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk > wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > When you write, say about a code library:
>> >
>> >    Intrinsic morphing for byte, sbyte, char, int16, uint16, uint32 
>> > and
>> uint64.
>> >
>> > does intrinsic here just mean built-in or internal or is that too simple?
>> > And what is the opposite? Extrinsic or external?
>> >
>> > /gustav
>>
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