Allan Mitchell
AMMitchell at cmpinformation.com
Tue Feb 25 11:27:32 CST 2003
I have always thought that MCDBA and MCSE et al get you through a papersift that little bit easier. If you are a "paper" one of these i.e used the braindumps then you will be found out quite quickly. I have not looked but is it really a requirement that you take the courses.? I doubt it I do not think they are designed for people using big databases either. I have no databases over 300 GB (But I do have 500 of them). I think they are an excellent learning aid and can never harm you. Do not get me started on degrees. I think it so out of order and outdated that companies want/demand degrees for some positions. The amount of people I see in I.T with a non IT related degree is amazing. [Allan Mitchell] -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 25 February 2003 16:58 To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]MCDBA Steve, Some bureaucracies look very favorably on degrees and certificates. Some look very favorably on your past performance. Which type are you now at and which type are you looking at for a better paying job? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0) -----Original Message----- From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Feb 25 10:56 To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]MCDBA Allan, I can appreciate the structured learning bit. I was wondering because I had a conversation with a good friend who, in the past, always kept up the certifications that he had. He seems to be despairing of the cost and bother. Unless one is focused very clearly on one skill these days, certification can become very expensive very quickly. Some--Cisco, for example--require re-certification every two years. I just wonder what that buys you once you get it. Continued advancement? Better-paying jobs? I looked up MCDBA certification classes in my area and found some being offered by another old friend of mine in the Chicago area. The certification tests apparently cannot be taken unless one also takes the courses. I found that a bit of a put-off. I was also curious that, on the Microsoft site, the MCDBA is geared for those with big company experience and big servers and big databases. Somehow I doubt that these required courses offer anything in the way of simulation of huge databases or multiple platform connections...or do they? I've worked with PCs since 1982 and on mainframes for a bit before that, back to 1975. It seems demeaning somehow that I cannot take a certification test without going through an approved set of courses for which I pay a large sum of money. I'm perfectly capable of learning SQL Server--or anything else, for that matter--just fine on my own or in connection with my client experiences. I guess I'm whining about having to take those courses. If I do and if I get an MCDBA, what does it mean? Regards, Steve Erbach Scientific Marketing Neenah, WI "Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits." - Mark Twain **************************************************************************************** IMPORTANT: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of CMP Information. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication and notify the sender immediately. It should be noted that any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. This email may be monitored. CMP Information Ltd: Registered in England & Wales Registered No 4002606 Registered Office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London SE1 9UY **************************************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/dba-sqlserver/attachments/20030225/b33db628/attachment.html>