[AccessD] Any comments on this?

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Thu Oct 23 21:26:26 CDT 2003


On 23 Oct 2003 at 22:01, John Colby wrote:

> It appears from what I read on the page that the counts wouldn't be affected
> since it makes up bogus pages on-the-fly.  

Au contraire, every time the bot follows a bogus link it makes 
another hit on the server which will up your count for that site. 
It depends a lot on how are logging hits. If you are using a tool 
like webalyzer, you can exclude hits to the WPoison link from your 
tallies.

>As for traffic limits, I guess it
> would apply, I mean it is kbytes shoveled out.  Pure html though probably
> isn't that big.
> 

To quote from the site:

"The effect of these calculated pauses is that they insure that any 
address harvesting web crawlers that may be diligently attempting to 
suck as many Wpoison-generated web pages out of your site as fast as 
possible will in fact only be able to suck pages out at a reasonable 
and moderate pace which will not have any sustained dramatic effect 
upon your CPU usage or network bandwidth, and yet still fast enough 
so that if one of these spammer address harvesting web crawlers is 
left to try to digest your entire web site, say, overnight, then 
within a few hours (and certainly by morning) its data base of e-mail 
addresses will have been well and throughly polluted by millions of 
utterly bogus e-mail addresses, just as we would like. "

If you are generating "millions of utterly bogus email addresses" 
plus the false links in each on-the-fly page, you will be serving up 
multi-megabytes of data so you could easily run into problems if you 
have a low traffic limit. 

However, as they point out:
"If your web site is one that does not allow you to install or use 
dynamic CGI scripts, then you don't have the option of being able to 
install or use your own local copy of Wpoison. In such cases, you may 
still be able to benefit from the presence of other installed copies 
of Wpoison that are available elsewhere on the web (in particular, 
our installed copies) merely by linking to them. "

That way, you pass the bot off to another site which presumably can 
handle the data flow.

> Seemed like a novel way to get back at the bastids.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.colbyconsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John B.
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:51 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any comments on this?
> 
> 
> Revenge, eh?
> If life were only so simple (and I wish it were in this case). I'm anxioulsy
> waiting to hear any negative about this approach.
> 
> A few questions come to mind:
> Would this mess up the web page's hit count? Would each interation count as
> a new hit?
> Would this count against the traffic limits of web hosting accounts that are
> charged that way?
> 
> John B.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Colby
> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:24 PM
> > To: AccessD
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any comments on this?
> >
> >
> > http://www.monkeys.com/wpoison/
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.colbyconsulting.com
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