[AccessD] Msadodc.ocx - or not

I believe you can blame SARBOX or Sarbanes-Oxley for all of this pain. 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Msadodc.ocx - or not

Hi Roz:

I will confirm with you Roz on Bank speed. It is something you can not
perceive with the naked eye. I work as a small subcontractor for a number of
Banks and even though the servers may be the state-of-the-art, the server
software is many years out of date. They all use Windows2000 OS, after NT
was reluctantly abandoned but my understanding is that they have started on
researching 2003 and it will take a couple of years before it is tentatively
implemented.

Jim  

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Msadodc.ocx - or not

Jim - at risk of vexing the list by wandering off topic - !

They have a fantastically complicated IT support arrangement. In fact
arrangement is too gracious a word. Because the bank is so big, and has so
many sites and so many legacy systems, finding out who supports something
can be fraught. There are local support people, central support people (two
entire sets), outsourced onshore support for specific systems or projects,
offshore support for others. I'm learning not to think of this as a company,
but as about 25 companies wrestling a big sack. The project I'm working on
is staffed by a mixture of contractors and permanents. Some are small
independents (like me) some are the big guns (Accenture) and some come
bundled with a particular software package or whatever. Everyone wants their
butt covered!

It's fun.

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: 12 March 2008 14:17
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Msadodc.ocx - or not

Roz,

  I'm curious; do they outsource their IT support?  What I've found is that
if so, things move at a glacial pace. 

  Outsourcing companies want a change notice on *everything*, then full
testing, etc because they want to cover their butt contract wise (which
includes penalty clauses for non-performance).

  When I deal with a client that has outsourced, it takes a minimum of a
week to get anything done unless it's a crises and they are seen as bailing
you out.

Jim.