[AccessD] Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows: Lifetime License | TechSpot

Wed Jun 22 17:30:34 CDT 2022

LOL, no.  I am trying to bring my dev environment up to date. 2019 is OK,
2022 is best.  Which this deal gives me for $50 per license.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 2:52 PM John Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net> wrote:

> I have a couple of copies of Access 2010 in the box if you'd like one.
>
> John B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD <accessd-bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com>
> On Behalf Of John Colby
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 1:24 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows:
> Lifetime License | TechSpot
>
> Yea, but I was trying to move the license to a new machine.  It wasn't
> licensed to the new machine.  So I spend $50 for a license for my new
> machine that can't be moved, or $300 for a license that can, should I ever
> decide to do so 5 years down the road?
>
> OEM licenses are nothing new.   And if it is cheap enough it still is a
> better deal than the non-oem.
>
> For me, this is cheap enough to work.
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 12:39 PM Jim Dettman via AccessD <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:
>
> > << As for "OEM", yea, that bit me already>>
> >
> >  Same here and that's the real "gotcha" with these cheap licenses.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AccessD On Behalf Of John Colby
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 12:01 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows:
> > Lifetime License | TechSpot
> >
> > And of course I understand all this.  I am looking for copies for
> > myself for my dev work.  I am NOT going to "Office-as-a-service" for my
> own dev.
> > If my clients do that I don't really care.  I successfully used O2010
> > until just a few months ago when my partner asked me to upgrade to
> > 2019 to be relatively modern.
> >
> > As for "OEM", yea, that bit me already.  My 2019 version works on my
> > HP laptop but when I moved that hard disk to my new laptop it refused to
> run.
> > So I continue to use that license on my HP laptop and will buy one of
> > these for my new laptop.  At $50 it is cheap enough that "who cares"
> > if it is locked down to one machine.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 9:30 AM Jim Dettman via AccessD <
> > accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Stuart,
> > >
> > > Yes it can be done, but it depends on the client.
> > >
> > > Microsoft for example cut-off all O365 services (One Drive, Exchange
> > > Online,
> > > etc) for all versions of Office prior to 2016 in 2020.  That killed
> > > quite
> > a
> > > few of my clients, mostly those using Exchange on-line.   If someone is
> > > hosting their servers on Azure services, that is another place you
> > > can
> > run
> > > into problems.   Microsoft blocks port 25 for sending mail and you
> can't
> > > get
> > > around it unless you are a very big corporation.  Problem is, older
> > > versions of Office can't support all the modern authentication
> > > methods now being pushed (oAuth).
> > >
> > > On the flip side, I had a client that was still running A2000 up until
> a
> > > year ago.    But they were having random crashes even with Windows
> Server
> > > 2008 R2 and the writing was on the wall (bug in an Office DLL).
> > > They had to
> > > upgrade.   The oldest version I am servicing now is Access 2007, but
> that
> > > client is being forced to upgrade because of the services they are
> using.
> > >
> > >  The point is "lifetime" is not forever and you should figure all
> > > bets
> > are
> > > off around the five-year mark.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AccessD On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:42 AM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows:
> > > Lifetime License | TechSpot
> > >
> > > I'm not overly concerned about " lifetime" and "lifecycles"
> > > I'm still  developing with Office 2010 on my laptop and supporting
> > > quite
> > a
> > > few 2010
> > > installations :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22 Jun 2022 at 7:46, Jim Dettman via AccessD wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >  Few things to watch out for with that:
> > > >
> > > > 1. "Lifetime" license - While the license is "lifetime", the ability
> > > > to use it is not.   Microsoft has dropped support lifecycles to seven
> > > > years.  First five are main, last two are extended (security
> > > > updates only).  They've also gone out of their way to make using a
> > > > perpetual license as difficult as possible, and they want to get
> > > > everyone on one code base, so they've killed off anything pre-2016
> > > > as quickly as possible.
> > > >
> > > > 2. One install on one PC literally means that most likely.  It's
> > > > probably an OEM license they are selling, and those don't include
> > > > transfer rights.  You get to install it on one PC and that will be
> it.
> > > >   If your motherboard goes, you'll be buying a new copy.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Updates - You are only going to get security updates and fixes to
> > > > the existing features during mainstream support.   You won't get any
> > > > new features.   In extended support, you'll only get security
> updates.
> > > >
> > > >  It is a bargain, but just a heads-up on what you are getting into
> > > > if  you decide to buy it.
> > > >
> > > > Jim.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: AccessD On Behalf Of John Colby
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