[dba-SQLServer]MCDBA

I have all the material for MCDBA...except it's 2 years old.  Never bothered to take the time and take the tests, because was too busy helping MCSE's with their code and stored procedures :-)  In between those sessions did take a 30-minute Brainbench test (3 of them) and got my certificates for free (now they actually charge for SQL-related stuff, don't know about VB).  I guess I got envious seeing those MCSE's signatures, some even made with MS official stamp...don't know where they got those fancy ones...But as I mentioned earlier, I was and still am helping those MCSE's with their stuff..
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Mitchell [mailto:AMMitchell at cmpinformation.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:28 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]MCDBA
 
I have always thought that MCDBA and MCSE et al get you through a papersift that little bit easier.  If you are a "paper" one of these i.e used the braindumps then you will be found out quite quickly.
 
I have not looked but is it really a requirement that you take the courses.?
 
I doubt it
 
I do not think they are designed for people using big databases either.  I have no databases over 300 GB (But I do have 500 of them).
 
I think they are an excellent learning aid and can never harm you.  Do not get me started on degrees.  I think it so out of order and outdated that companies want/demand degrees for some positions.  The amount of people I see in I.T with a non IT related degree is amazing.

[Allan Mitchell] 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us]
Sent: 25 February 2003 16:58
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]MCDBA
Steve,
 
Some bureaucracies look very favorably on degrees and certificates.  Some look very favorably on  your past performance.  Which type are you now at and which type are you looking at for a better paying job?
 
Charles Wortz 
Software Development Division 
Texas Education Agency 
1701 N. Congress Ave 
Austin, TX 78701-1494 
512-463-9493 
CWortz at tea.state.tx.us 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday 2003 Feb 25 10:56
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer]MCDBA
Allan,
 
I can appreciate the structured learning bit. I was wondering because I had a conversation with a good friend who, in the past, always kept up the certifications that he had. He seems to be despairing of the cost and bother. Unless one is focused very clearly on one skill these days, certification can become very expensive very quickly. Some--Cisco, for example--require re-certification every two years. I just wonder what that buys you once you get it. Continued advancement? Better-paying jobs?
 
I looked up MCDBA certification classes in my area and found some being offered by another old friend of mine in the Chicago area. The certification tests apparently cannot be taken unless one also takes the courses. I found that a bit of a put-off.
 
I was also curious that, on the Microsoft site, the MCDBA is geared for those with big company experience and big servers and big databases. Somehow I doubt that these required courses offer anything in the way of simulation of huge databases or multiple platform connections...or do they?
 
I've worked with PCs since 1982 and on mainframes for a bit before that, back to 1975. It seems demeaning somehow that I cannot take a certification test without going through an approved set of courses for which I pay a large sum of money. I'm perfectly capable of learning SQL Server--or anything else, for that matter--just fine on my own or in connection with my client experiences. I guess I'm whining about having to take those courses. If I do and if I get an MCDBA, what does it mean?
 
Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
 
"Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits." - Mark Twain


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