[dba-SQLServer] Being helpful

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Mar 27 09:01:30 CDT 2008


Francisco,

Everyone on this list needs to: 

1) READ THE QUESTION. 
2) RESPOND TO THE QUESTION, in a manner that is at all likely to be useful
to the person asking the question.
3) Leave the lectures to a new thread of your own making.

Francisco,

You keep coming back to ME.  I asked a simple question and got useless junk
and lectures about the right way to do things.  I got exactly TWO responses
that were useful and indicated that the respondent even LOOKED at my
question, one from Elizabeth and another from James, both of whom I thanked.

Robert writes a Doctoral thesis and then inserts crap like "now you can go
learn enough to even be worthy of being here" and you don't say a word.  If
you want to be a moderator why don't you step in at the very beginning and
ask the people to respond to the questions in a useful and civil manner, at
a level likely to be useful to the person.  I don't need their lectures, and
I don't need yours (and I don't need a Doctoral thesis).

Please everybody, do not respond to the thread unless you have actually READ
it and are willing to write answers on my level.  And start your own threads
if you want to discuss "the right way to" or "how you should NEVER" or write
a Doctoral thesis, or anything else not directly related to my question.

The question is not answered, though I am certainly on my way, and have
started another thread to discuss it further.  

Thanks,

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:37 AM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Copy a database using a stored procedure
orfunction

I have asked for the members on this list to be courteous to each other.

All we have is bashing right then left. Nothing is being accomplished when
everyone is acting like school children!!

John,
  I don't really care if someone's response was useless to you, you don't
have to respond in such a raw and rude manner. Its responses like those that
begin these sort of threads, it is nobody elses fault on this list that you
are frustrated.  Everyone on this thread needs to take a breath and return
to the topic, which I belive John earlier stated is now fixed thanks to
Elizabeths code. And unless anyone else has improvements on such a
suggestion this thread is now closed.


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Francisco
Dba-SqlServer List Moderator



On 3/27/08, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Yes, Robert, it was a huge waste of MY time, and undoubtedly yours.  
> It just shows how little you read from my posts.  I have clearly 
> stated that I know nothing.  Your response is two pages of stuff that 
> I have no clue what it is and am entirely incapable of understanding, 
> then you state that is only half the solution and it is now time for me to
go write the other half.
>
> OTOH look at Elizabeth's solution.  It apparently works and is compact 
> and readable.  And no snotty "now go learn enough to be worthy to be 
> in my presence" comments.
>
> Yes, Robert, it was a huge waste of MY time, and probably yours.
>
> I have no doubt that you know this stuff, you are just useless to me.  
> It is not my fault that you are useless to me BTW.
>
> Take off your Priest robes, roll up your sleeves, get the "tone" out 
> of your voice and write simple code with explanations of what it does 
> and you could be helpful.  Until such time, do not bother to respond 
> to my requests for help because you are useless to me, and you are 
> just irritating (apparently your intent).
>
> If you want to be treated as the professional that you seem to be, act 
> like it.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
> Stewart
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:55 AM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Copy a database using a stored procedure 
> orfunction
>
> John,
>
> So the code I sent you for a parameterized stored procedure to do 
> everything except the restore was "less than useful."
>
> I apologize for the "huge waste of everybody's time" (including
> mine) to give you a good, solid, viable way of solving your problem.
>
> Robert
>
> At 09:33 PM 3/26/2008, you wrote:
> >So yea, for some reason I do find this list less than useful.  A full 
> >day of lectures, and ONE response that actually looks like it might 
> >be
> helpful.
> >Thanks Elizabeth!
>
>
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