Erwin Craps
Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be
Fri Oct 10 10:20:28 CDT 2003
Thats correct... Flemisch people are very (correct use of)language minded and indeed there is an issue for dialects. I don't know how many dialects we have I supose somewhere between 40 an 80 (for 6 Million people). IT is a fact most parents raise thee children in correct language use and don't bother to learn a dialect. Myself I was raisen in dialect (I'm 38 now) at my parents home, but I supose I was one of the last... Often parents talk to each other in dalect when the kid is not around but to their child always in correct Dutch. So thats why dialect is dying a silent dead. TV station are anticpating on that and we have soap in some artificial dialect mixture and local stations have some real authentic guy telling some jokes in plain local dialect. There are some movements to keep the dialect gooing, but I supose dialect is gooing to be a touristick thing in x years. Probably the whole world is gooing to have this in a couple of thousends years. Dutch, German, Italian all gonna be some local dialect in our globalised world. Probably English gonna be the world language, or Chinees or Spanisch, Spanisch is still the most used native language. Or maybe the EC will be pushing esperanto? -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens John B. Verzonden: vrijdag 10 oktober 2003 16:36 Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Onderwerp: RE: [dba-Tech] OT Windows Language Settings There was a recent news item in this area about an area of Wisconsin where the Belgian immigrants were the last people in the world to speak a particular dialect of (I believe they said) Flemish. They were afraid that it would become a dead language because the kids aren't bothering to use it anymore. > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Craps > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:22 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] OT Windows Language Settings > > > NO ARCHIVE > > Well I must say Flemish people tend to say they speak Flemish but this > is to make clear they are from Belgium and not from The Netherlands. > > And if we say we are from Belgium, people often think we are French > speaking.... It's sometimes funny because they start speaking to us in > French straightaway and we answer in French so they really believe we > are Belgian-French... > > You sometimes should hear a Belgian conversation between collegue's... > The French one is speaking Dutch to the Dutch person so he can improve > his Dutch This Dutch person reponds to this French person in French > because he wants to improve his French. When there is a second French > speaking person, the first French speaks French to the second French > and both French speak Dutch to the Dutch Person and the Dutch person > responds to both in French. > > And when a second Dutch person arrives.... You get the idea.... > > So the whole conversations switches constantly from one language to > another (there is no translating done) depending on whom you are > taking to... > > And if a English persons get in, well, they all speak English... > > Really, it very amusing to watch a group of people talking like > that... > > > > > > Erwin > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Gustav Brock > Verzonden: vrijdag 10 oktober 2003 12:04 > Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows Language Settings > > > Hi Erwin > > I'm with you, all right, and it's Friday. And I know about deutsch so > I caught that. > > Never knew about the connection between the Flemish and Dutch, so > learnt something new today! > > /gustav > > > > Date: 2003-10-10 11:54 > > > Gustav.... > > > Its Flemish.... > > And its very confusion because Flemish is not a language... Flemish > > people speak Dutch. Dutch is Nederlands (like they speak in The > > Netherlands (Holland)) and not Dutch as in Deutschland (Germany) > > whom speak German and not Dutch... > > > So Flemish is a person from Vlaanderen which is the north side of > > Belgium. > > > But, because in The Netherlands (Holland) other Dutch words are used > > than in Vlaanderen (Flemisch) it sounds like a different languages > > but > > > they are not. Its like English USA and English UK or Australia, > > etc... Same language but different use of words and pronanciation... > > > Same thing for the south side of Belgium but in Belgian-French and > > not > > > French-French... > > > Is anyone still with me on this, because I'm starting to doubt on > > myself here.... > > > Erwin > > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Gustav Brock > > Verzonden: vrijdag 10 oktober 2003 11:46 > > Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows Language Settings > > > > Hi Erwin > > > So how about Flamish (if this is how to spell in English your > > non-French language used Belgium)? > > > By the way, Andy, we have here a broker who can supply (mostly IBM) > > machines localized for many European countries. These machines are, > > oddly, very hard to obtain at the normal broadline distributors. > > > /gustav > > > >> Date: 2003-10-10 11:36 > > >> :-) > > >> Thats the advantage of beeing in a country with tree offical > >> languages > > >> and the EC in Brussels... I used to work for a company whom shipped > >> computers/terminal in as many languages as the EC exists of > >> countries..... My job was to prepare them... And not to forget as > >> many different keyboards too... > > >> I now have customers working in 4 languages.... English (Int), > >> Dutch, > > >> French and 1 German... I know most of the menu's in office by heart > >> in > > >> 3 languages....when giving suport by phone... > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com