John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Thu Feb 16 11:28:46 CST 2006
Rocky, I quit using Norton (on my main machine) when Norton's 2005 turned out to be such a pain. I have a lot of clients using it (not by my recommendation-they upgraded without asking me) so I still have it on a secondary machine just to keep tabs on it. Up until 2005 I used to recommend Norton Internet Security for SOHOs. I have moved my main machine (and many clients) to Computer Associates EZ Internet Security (which is the home version of its corporate security products. The suite includes eTrust antivirus, PestPatrol (one of the best anti-spywares), Qurb (anti-spam works very good but not with TB yet) and CA's branded ZoneAlarm firewall. You can pick this up with rebates for $0 right now, along with a nice little kit of cable adapters: http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpN o=1389168&CatId=984 I never pushed Norton's corporate edition for business clients. When I could, I've used CA eTrust for small businesses with networks. Most of my small business clients have been using eTrust AV for a couple of years now. No problems. I also have the benefit of working in area where SBC is offering a free security suite for customers that includes CA's AV. So most of my work is now with CA's products. I joined their "partner program" but really get no benefit from it. Some phone calls andmailings that just annoy me and a real contact if something goes wrong - but I've never had to use it. So I am really not jaded by it. If they do a "Norton" on me I'd drop it like I did Norton (and McAfee before them). Like McAfee a decade ago, I have abandoned Norton for another company that seems to put customers first. If your Norton is stable and your subscription isn't in need of renewal you may want to wait a month before buying CA EZ as they have released a new version which integrates the product's interfaces. But of course you'll pay for that version too (I think this is the very reason for the nice rebates). I use AVG personal edition when the license agreement allows for it. Just because I refuse to rip off software from anyone. (Once you've had your own stolen it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth!) You can use it on anything but the license says only for "personal home use" not non-profit, schools or business use. You can purchase AVG for that purpose though I have never known anyone that actually paid for it. Top notch product. If you're one that likes to use separate products for separate purposes it is one to consider. I don't know about their suite bundles though as its not all their products anyway. The same for Antivir. I don't care for Panda's products - they do work though. The local cable co. is offering a free security suite for their customers and it includes F-Secure's products. Although it works properly it is a pig and really slows down the machines. I have replaced it with AVG where applicable. I don't use McAfee any more and am almost Mcafee free with my client base now. I like Trend Micros AV product but not there anti-spy. So, if it isn't evident from above I recommend CA's security products. I really like CounterSpy for antispyware. As I do Spysweeper. If you decide to go with something besides CA's suite - I would recommend one of these for antispyware along with it. No other AV company has a decent antispyware product yet (certainly not Norton's ant-spyware!). And to be honest CA just bought up one of the top antispyware products PestPatrol which I guess has now been proven as a better way to accomplish the goal than trying to build their own ;o) HTH John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:00 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: Norton Strip mdbs They're under some competitive pressure aren't they? Stock is about 1/2 what it was year and a half ago and still selling at 89 times earnings (!). Has anyone abandoned Norton for something better? Rocky Steve Erbach wrote: > Rocky, > > I think they're making a decent amount of money with large company > anti-virus subscriptions and from individuals re-subscribing every > year...at least, those who don't know where to get a deal like yours. > > The old give-away-the-razors-and-sell-the-blades lick. > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI > http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com > > On 2/15/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote: > >> No security suite. Systemworks. I get it free every year. For some >> reason Fry's has rebates on it equaling the purchase price. Oddest >> thing. Then, if I have to re-install it, it starts my year over again. >> Odder thing. I can't see how these guys are making any money. >> >> Rocky >> >> >> Steve Erbach wrote: >> >>> Rocky, >>> >>> So you bought just Norton Anti-Virus, not the Norton/Symantec >>> Internet Security Suite? >>> >>> Steve Erbach >>> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com >>> >>> On 2/14/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Steve: >>>> >>>> I'm using Sygate Personal for a firewall. I don't see an Internet >>>> security option in Norton. I have email protection running but I need that. >>>> >>>> Rocky >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve Erbach wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Rocky, >>>>> >>>>> I read the message you quoted regarding the deletion of the >>>>> attachment. That sounds to me more like a firewall issue. I use >>>>> ZoneAlarm and it has an option for quarantining attachment types >>>>> you define. Do you have the Norton Internet Security option; that >>>>> is, the Norton firewall active? Maybe that's the culprit that's >>>>> deleting the attachments. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Erbach >>>>> Neenah, WI >>>>> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/14/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It's a fairly common problem. I hear this once or twice a month >>>>>> from clients I send stuff to. But I can't find any attachment >>>>>> filter options in Norton. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rocky >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Rocky Smolin >> Beach Access Software >> 858-259-4334 >> www.e-z-mrp.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com