[dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: Norton Strip mdbs

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software bchacc at san.rr.com
Thu Feb 16 11:46:56 CST 2006


John:

Thanks for the recommendations.  Have you looked at the new Microsoft 
anti-spyware product?

Rocky


John Bartow wrote:
> Rocky,
> I quit using Norton (on my main machine) when Norton's 2005 turned out to be
> such a pain. I have a lot of clients using it (not by my recommendation-they
> upgraded without asking me) so I still have it on a secondary machine just
> to keep tabs on it. Up until 2005 I used to recommend Norton Internet
> Security for SOHOs.
>
> I have moved my main machine (and many clients) to Computer Associates EZ
> Internet Security (which is the home version of its corporate security
> products. The suite includes eTrust antivirus, PestPatrol (one of the best
> anti-spywares), Qurb (anti-spam works very good but not with TB yet) and
> CA's branded ZoneAlarm firewall. You can pick this up with rebates for $0
> right now, along with a nice little kit of cable adapters:
> http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpN
> o=1389168&CatId=984
>
> I never pushed Norton's corporate edition for business clients. When I
> could, I've used CA eTrust for small businesses with networks. Most of my
> small business clients have been using eTrust AV for a couple of years now.
> No problems.
>
> I also have the benefit of working in area where SBC is offering a free
> security suite for customers that includes CA's AV. So most of my work is
> now with CA's products. I joined their "partner program" but really get no
> benefit from it. Some phone calls andmailings that just annoy me and a real
> contact if something goes wrong - but I've never had to use it. So I am
> really not jaded by it. If they do a "Norton" on me I'd drop it like I did
> Norton (and McAfee before them).
>
> Like McAfee a decade ago, I have abandoned Norton for another company that
> seems to put customers first. If your Norton is stable and your subscription
> isn't in need of renewal you may want to wait a month before buying CA EZ as
> they have released a new version which integrates the product's interfaces.
> But of course you'll pay for that version too (I think this is the very
> reason for the nice rebates).
>
> I use AVG personal edition when the license agreement allows for it. Just
> because I refuse to rip off software from anyone. (Once you've had your own
> stolen it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth!) You can use it on anything
> but the license says only for "personal home use" not non-profit, schools or
> business use. You can purchase AVG for that purpose though I have never
> known anyone that actually paid for it. Top notch product. If you're one
> that likes to use separate products for separate purposes it is one to
> consider. I don't know about their suite bundles though as its not all their
> products anyway. 
>
> The same for Antivir.
>
> I don't care for Panda's products - they do work though.
>
> The local cable co. is offering a free security suite for their customers
> and it includes F-Secure's products. Although it works properly it is a pig
> and really slows down the machines. I have replaced it with AVG where
> applicable.
>
> I don't use McAfee any more and am almost Mcafee free with my client base
> now.
>
> I like Trend Micros AV product but not there anti-spy.
>
> So, if it isn't evident from above I recommend CA's security products.
>
> I really like CounterSpy for antispyware. As I do Spysweeper. If you decide
> to go with something besides CA's suite - I would recommend one of these for
> antispyware along with it. No other AV company has a decent antispyware
> product yet (certainly not Norton's ant-spyware!). And to be honest CA just
> bought up one of the top antispyware products PestPatrol which I guess has
> now been proven as a better way to accomplish the goal than trying to build
> their own ;o)
>
> HTH
> John B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:00 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: Norton Strip mdbs
>
> They're under some competitive pressure aren't they?  Stock is about 1/2
> what it was year and a half ago and still selling at 89 times earnings (!). 
>
> Has anyone abandoned Norton for something better?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> Steve Erbach wrote:
>   
>> Rocky,
>>
>> I think they're making a decent amount of money with large company 
>> anti-virus subscriptions and from individuals re-subscribing every 
>> year...at least, those who don't know where to get a deal like yours.
>>
>> The old give-away-the-razors-and-sell-the-blades lick.
>>
>> Steve Erbach
>> Neenah, WI
>> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com
>>
>> On 2/15/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>     
> wrote:
>   
>>   
>>     
>>> No security suite.  Systemworks.  I get it free every year.  For some 
>>> reason Fry's has rebates on it equaling the purchase price.  Oddest 
>>> thing.  Then, if I have to re-install it, it starts my year over again.
>>> Odder thing.  I can't see how these guys are making any money.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Erbach wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Rocky,
>>>>
>>>> So you bought just Norton Anti-Virus, not the Norton/Symantec 
>>>> Internet Security Suite?
>>>>
>>>> Steve Erbach
>>>> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> On 2/14/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>         
> wrote:
>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Steve:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using Sygate Personal for a firewall. I don't see an Internet 
>>>>> security option in Norton. I have email protection running but I need
>>>>>           
> that.
>   
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Erbach wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Rocky,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the message you quoted regarding the deletion of the 
>>>>>> attachment.  That sounds to me more like a firewall issue.  I use 
>>>>>> ZoneAlarm and it has an option for quarantining attachment types 
>>>>>> you define.  Do you have the Norton Internet Security option; that 
>>>>>> is, the Norton firewall active?  Maybe that's the culprit that's 
>>>>>> deleting the attachments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Erbach
>>>>>> Neenah, WI
>>>>>> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/14/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>>>             
> wrote:
>   
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> It's a fairly common problem.  I hear this once or twice a month 
>>>>>>> from clients I send stuff to.  But I can't find any attachment 
>>>>>>> filter options in Norton.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
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