Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
bchacc at san.rr.com
Thu Feb 16 11:46:56 CST 2006
John: Thanks for the recommendations. Have you looked at the new Microsoft anti-spyware product? Rocky John Bartow wrote: > Rocky, > I quit using Norton (on my main machine) when Norton's 2005 turned out to be > such a pain. I have a lot of clients using it (not by my recommendation-they > upgraded without asking me) so I still have it on a secondary machine just > to keep tabs on it. Up until 2005 I used to recommend Norton Internet > Security for SOHOs. > > I have moved my main machine (and many clients) to Computer Associates EZ > Internet Security (which is the home version of its corporate security > products. The suite includes eTrust antivirus, PestPatrol (one of the best > anti-spywares), Qurb (anti-spam works very good but not with TB yet) and > CA's branded ZoneAlarm firewall. You can pick this up with rebates for $0 > right now, along with a nice little kit of cable adapters: > http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpN > o=1389168&CatId=984 > > I never pushed Norton's corporate edition for business clients. When I > could, I've used CA eTrust for small businesses with networks. Most of my > small business clients have been using eTrust AV for a couple of years now. > No problems. > > I also have the benefit of working in area where SBC is offering a free > security suite for customers that includes CA's AV. So most of my work is > now with CA's products. I joined their "partner program" but really get no > benefit from it. Some phone calls andmailings that just annoy me and a real > contact if something goes wrong - but I've never had to use it. So I am > really not jaded by it. If they do a "Norton" on me I'd drop it like I did > Norton (and McAfee before them). > > Like McAfee a decade ago, I have abandoned Norton for another company that > seems to put customers first. If your Norton is stable and your subscription > isn't in need of renewal you may want to wait a month before buying CA EZ as > they have released a new version which integrates the product's interfaces. > But of course you'll pay for that version too (I think this is the very > reason for the nice rebates). > > I use AVG personal edition when the license agreement allows for it. Just > because I refuse to rip off software from anyone. (Once you've had your own > stolen it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth!) You can use it on anything > but the license says only for "personal home use" not non-profit, schools or > business use. You can purchase AVG for that purpose though I have never > known anyone that actually paid for it. Top notch product. If you're one > that likes to use separate products for separate purposes it is one to > consider. I don't know about their suite bundles though as its not all their > products anyway. > > The same for Antivir. > > I don't care for Panda's products - they do work though. > > The local cable co. is offering a free security suite for their customers > and it includes F-Secure's products. Although it works properly it is a pig > and really slows down the machines. I have replaced it with AVG where > applicable. > > I don't use McAfee any more and am almost Mcafee free with my client base > now. > > I like Trend Micros AV product but not there anti-spy. > > So, if it isn't evident from above I recommend CA's security products. > > I really like CounterSpy for antispyware. As I do Spysweeper. If you decide > to go with something besides CA's suite - I would recommend one of these for > antispyware along with it. No other AV company has a decent antispyware > product yet (certainly not Norton's ant-spyware!). And to be honest CA just > bought up one of the top antispyware products PestPatrol which I guess has > now been proven as a better way to accomplish the goal than trying to build > their own ;o) > > HTH > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - > Beach Access Software > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:00 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: Norton Strip mdbs > > They're under some competitive pressure aren't they? Stock is about 1/2 > what it was year and a half ago and still selling at 89 times earnings (!). > > Has anyone abandoned Norton for something better? > > Rocky > > > Steve Erbach wrote: > >> Rocky, >> >> I think they're making a decent amount of money with large company >> anti-virus subscriptions and from individuals re-subscribing every >> year...at least, those who don't know where to get a deal like yours. >> >> The old give-away-the-razors-and-sell-the-blades lick. >> >> Steve Erbach >> Neenah, WI >> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com >> >> On 2/15/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> >> > wrote: > >> >> >>> No security suite. Systemworks. I get it free every year. For some >>> reason Fry's has rebates on it equaling the purchase price. Oddest >>> thing. Then, if I have to re-install it, it starts my year over again. >>> Odder thing. I can't see how these guys are making any money. >>> >>> Rocky >>> >>> >>> Steve Erbach wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Rocky, >>>> >>>> So you bought just Norton Anti-Virus, not the Norton/Symantec >>>> Internet Security Suite? >>>> >>>> Steve Erbach >>>> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> On 2/14/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> >>>> > wrote: > >>>> >>>> >>>>> Steve: >>>>> >>>>> I'm using Sygate Personal for a firewall. I don't see an Internet >>>>> security option in Norton. I have email protection running but I need >>>>> > that. > >>>>> Rocky >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Steve Erbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Rocky, >>>>>> >>>>>> I read the message you quoted regarding the deletion of the >>>>>> attachment. That sounds to me more like a firewall issue. I use >>>>>> ZoneAlarm and it has an option for quarantining attachment types >>>>>> you define. Do you have the Norton Internet Security option; that >>>>>> is, the Norton firewall active? Maybe that's the culprit that's >>>>>> deleting the attachments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Erbach >>>>>> Neenah, WI >>>>>> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/14/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's a fairly common problem. I hear this once or twice a month >>>>>>> from clients I send stuff to. But I can't find any attachment >>>>>>> filter options in Norton. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rocky >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dba-Tech mailing list >>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Rocky Smolin >>> Beach Access Software >>> 858-259-4334 >>> www.e-z-mrp.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> > > -- > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com