John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Wed Mar 15 20:28:56 CST 2006
Francisco, If they weren't better than the 3 freebies I wouldn't make an issue of it, but you are clearly mistaken. And I'm not a brand name adherent (as anyone that reads my posts would know). Do your own evaluation of all of them at the same time and you'll never make such a statement again. MS anti-spyware is a joke these days (I still use it PCs where they won't PAY for a real time anti-spyware program). It holds up well to the statement "its better than nothing". I also use Spybot S&D and Adaware (and a number of other products) on a regular basis and they just don't compare. Often times they will claim to have removed the malware but haven't or in the case of Spybot will want to do a scan at startup which rarely accomplishes anything. Don't get me wrong, I love those products. They will install and run in safe mode CS won't <grr>. And they are better than MS's. But they don't hold up against CounterSpy, Pest Patrol or SpySweeper. These three are consistently top rated while others bounce up and down depending who's doing the rating. CounterSpy actually uses the MS-AS malware database as ONE of its THREE data sources (because they had a contract before MS bought Giant) so how you can claim that MS-AS is better I just don't know! I hope MS does come through with a decent AS product but I'm not waiting for the day. If you know about anti-spyware, you also know that at this point in time no one product will detect and remove all spyware. As far as firewalls go, I agree, Sygate PF is great. I probably learned about it from this list years ago. But its dead. Therefore I replaced it with Kerio, which I probably learned about from this list too. So while Kerio will only get better, Sygate will only get antiquated. And the real big catch is: how do I refer people to a dead product? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:52 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Norton Antivirus Activation i dunno , i've used these products before and my general thoughts were that they don't hold their own against quality products such as spybot or adaware or even MS's antispyware. for firewalls, i still quite prefer sygate. I haven't ran into something that is better for the monies. tho now that symantec bought them only to kill the product.