[dba-VB] Renaming DBA-VB

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Oct 23 07:21:07 CDT 2007


One of our list members mentioned that he didn't hang out on our vb list
because it never gained critical mass and therefore the membership was low
and the responses to questions low or nonexistent.  I think this is a real
concern.  AccessD is specialized in Access, everyone there knows and "loves"
Access and come there to get assistance or share their knowledge about

Now we create a list about "programming".  That is fine except now someone
come to the list and post a question about Ruby On Rails and get no answers
because while everyone there is interested in following such threads, no one
actually uses it.  The thread never starts, and the poster goes away and
finds a Ruby On Rails list so that he can get his questions answered.

Make an assumption that somehow we achieve critical mass and we have 40
questions a day posted in each of Ruby, Java, Python, VBScript, VB6, VB.Net,
C#, J#, F#, c#, D#, E# Z# and A flat Minor.  I am on the list to learn about
VB (the original focus) or in my case VB.Net, and I am getting flooded with
emails about subjects which (not being a musician) I am not interested in
nor do I have the expertise to appreciate.

Neither scenario works.  We keep AccessD focused on Access for a reason, so
that it can be home to people interested in the subject.

Having said that, we can certainly host a list on "Programming", in which
discussions about programming concepts and even specific problems in
whatever language are encouraged.  But I for one would not vote to make the
VB list that list.  

I use VB.Net a lot these days and I would like a list focused on the dot net
technology, while holding on to our VB brethren who have not yet moved up.
I vote to make the VB List a VB list which adds VB.Net and even other VB
variations if desired, but still focused on VB.  

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:27 AM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Renaming DBA-VB

Hi John et al

That covers pretty much my opinion.
However, the new name isn't important too me, I just found VB(6) too
restricted. I don't think anyone would be offended by a post on Java, Python
or any other language, even VBScript - in fact I would welcome it - it's
just that the audience with a relevant knowledge is quite limited so
response would probably be low. But could we develop an audience for, say,
Ruby On Rails it would be great. Even though we here at Cactus Data have
decided for Visual Studio and C#, I would at least browse such postings
because of the relevance to databases and because you can always learn

In fact, one of the strengths of our lists is the members' broad background
often supported by solid experience from real life, and we should encourage
any step to maintain this.


>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-10-2007 00:29 >>>
This really isn't about the Access list.  That will remain named as it is I
presume.  The discussion is about renaming the VB list to embrace a wider

It is my opinion that we should not cast too wide a net or we will end up
attracting people for every platform under the sun and they will soon leave
because there is no support available for their respective platform.

I thought we should simply widen the target to include the .Net platform,
specifically VB.Net.  The list is currently VB oriented, and widening the
scope to include VB.Net (which is a large percentage of the current traffic)
would be entirely appropriate.

Just my opinion.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-vb-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:21 PM
To: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-VB] Renaming DBA-VB

I'm not interested in .Net anything, right now.

I guess you're saying that both PHP and Ruby on Rails are irrelevant when it
comes to Access?

Michael R. Mattys
MapPoint & Access Dev

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